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Soft launch of open-source code platform for government

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Re: Soft launch of open-source code platform for government

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Post by mcsolid »

starefossen wrote: post #23
embedding-shape wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am living in Spain, and from my point of view, Netherlands is one of the ones doing the most for FOSS in Europe today! It sees much faster real-world adoption of FOSS in ministries and municipalities than other countries, the government seems eager to fund FOSS (again, compared to other countries) and generally be welcoming to the ecosystem. Browsing around, there seems to be lots of FOSS projects funded by money c…

Norwegian Government has a couple of thousand open repos for their code https://norwegian-public-organizations.vercel.app/ Most notably the Labor and Welfare Administration with 3000+ open repos.

This is cool (and on Vercel too)

Re: Soft launch of open-source code platform for government

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Post by rollyboo »

ramon156 wrote: post #91
brnt wrote: post #86

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> partijgedrag So happy to see they're ingesting voting data again! They stopped a few years ago (which is also a few elections), which I thought was such a shame. Knowing what representatives actually do, and not just promise, is really the only thing that matters.

Elwin had some trouble with getting the API going. I ended up helping out, but I was in a big time crunch at the company I was working for at the time. That's vastly different now, so I want to take a look at how we can properly do ingestion. Currently it's an ETL that is pretty flakey, even with tests. The backend-frontend is also a mess, wondering if we can just go vanillaJS without the mess that is pgtyped/prisma.…

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Re: Soft launch of open-source code platform for government

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Post by rollyboo »

embedding-shape wrote: post #7
ivolimmen wrote: post #3

I am Dutch and I am glad they finally started to do some open sourcing. I have worked at different governmental bodies and have been promoting open source for some time now. But as a simple 'added hands for hire' I never got any response to my pleas. I guess it's typical Dutch that we are one of the last to do so.

I am living in Spain, and from my point of view, Netherlands is one of the ones doing the most for FOSS in Europe today! It sees much faster real-world adoption of FOSS in ministries and municipalities than other countries, the government seems eager to fund FOSS (again, compared to other countries) and generally be welcoming to the ecosystem. Browsing around, there seems to be lots of FOSS projects funded by money c…

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Re: Soft launch of open-source code platform for government

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Post by ramon156 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #95
ramon156 wrote: post #67

Proud dutchie here! I was wondering this morning whether they were going to migrate away from GH. Really glad that they did. I remember applying for a job (at some weird company) to be put up as an open-source contributor for the dutch government last year. The idea was that I was going to build on top of MuleSoft stuff. They ghosted me a day later, despite me having already done these things for the client they need…

> I was wondering this morning whether they were going to migrate away from GH. In the context of other commentary today with various people migrating off of github... is there an event prompting this, or were you thinking of it more in the general vein of European governments trying to reduce dependency on American services?

You're on the money. They already were discussing moving away from america-dependent infra. We already had a Microsoft-involved power-move a few years ago that resulted in dutch government emails being blacklisted. I was just wondering why they would stay on GH.

I expected them to use GitLab because its older and dutch, but I'm glad they opted for forgejo.

Re: Soft launch of open-source code platform for government

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Post by debarshri »

sschueller wrote: post #69
debarshri wrote: post #28

Funny enough, GitLab, has a dutch founder.

Gitlab has become quite hostile and I would not be surprise if they stop supporting their open source version. Even if you want to pay, the starting price is quite high and there is only one price now and for everything else you need to make a "deal" with them.

It is an enterprise product. Enterprise products are not cheap. Also, you should have certain scale to buy an enterprise platform. By setting certain price, they expect you as a business to have scale as there are support and service level agreements the org wants to adhere to, it is also an investment from the org side.

It is pretty common playbook.

Re: Soft launch of open-source code platform for government

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Post by vasco »

Tangurena2 wrote: post #87
vasco wrote: post #35

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I imagine if a new law is introduced or a change to an existing law is proposed it can auto-check for consistency, collisions with other laws, auto-flag laws that need to be amended together or things like that.

If such a thing exists (or could exist), I'm certain that my state government agency would benefit greatly from it.

All that is needed is political will, if then all subdepartments implement the same thing you could even have practical policies be auto-flagged that need to be updated when a law changes with instant suggested updates to some form people need to submit, etc. This whole government apparatus could be much simpler.
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