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Re: Warp is now open-source

#101
Literally installed and used Warp for the first time ever, asked the agent "/agent can you open a tab in the terminal for each build folder" and my account got disabled for AI immediately due to a "Terms of Service violation".

Very poor first time user experience.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#103
post #2

> Open-sourcing is fundamentally coming from our desire to build a successful business. We are competing with other highly funded, closed-source competitors, and we think opening and providing the resources for the community to improve Warp is a smart way for us to accelerate product development. Yes, we are a VC funded startup, but we do not have the resources to compete on price or massively subsidize usage – we ne…

> Appreciate the candid take. Warp is great.

Sorry but I can't read this statement in a tone is not absolutely dry sarcasm.

Warp is a masterclass in how to have a great product statement, very nice UI and completely ruin it with greed, closed-source, and by not listening to your customers.

I don't know who at Warp got replaced and wants to "fix" things, but they have a lot to overcome. At this point, it might not even matter-- another product written from scratch might have better success.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#104
post #54

Interestingly i had been building a terminal in rust and libghostty(with Linux and windows supported too) with built-in agent that understands terminal, too. And the motivation was warp is doing a little bit more than a terminal. https://con.nowledge.co Glad to see now warp is open-sourced

Keep working on it. Warp has to overcome much of it's historical bad decisions. They announce becoming open-source, but they don't have trust yet.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#105

Can you confirm that Warp is NOT initiating any connection to any service whatsoever unless explicitly enabled in Settings? Warp had an account requirement in the beginning which spoke volumes about the misalignment of values. Now the terminal is not called a terminal, it is "the agentic development environment" (whatever that means) which also lowkey implies that it might have some kind of online features. But at th…

For transparency, the issue with telemetry turning back on after an app restart was a very bad bug introduced yesterday that only affected new users; this is P0 for us to fix and we’ll have a new release out in the next few hours with a fix. The PR is here https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/pull/9438/ if you want to follow along.

To add more color to some of your points in the post above:

* We give users the option to disable telemetry before sending any back to our servers.

* We use Sentry for crash reporting, this can be disabled.

* Yes, we record telemetry with the option to disable. The events are in our source code (as you point out) and also on our website.

* We have a network log in app that you can open and view _any_ request we make, including requests to send telemetry.

* If you compile the OSS build it has no telemetry or crash reporting.

Our motivation with open sourcing is to build more trust with our community, not less. Happy to discuss more and, of course, the codebase is available to audit.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#106

Literally installed and used Warp for the first time ever, asked the agent "/agent can you open a tab in the terminal for each build folder" and my account got disabled for AI immediately due to a "Terms of Service violation". Very poor first time user experience.

The AI features are not fully open, and there are some forking attempts to fix that. https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/issues/9303

Re: Warp is now open-source

#107

Can you confirm that Warp is NOT initiating any connection to any service whatsoever unless explicitly enabled in Settings? Warp had an account requirement in the beginning which spoke volumes about the misalignment of values. Now the terminal is not called a terminal, it is "the agentic development environment" (whatever that means) which also lowkey implies that it might have some kind of online features. But at th…

For transparency, the issue with telemetry turning back on after an app restart was a very bad bug introduced yesterday that only affected new users; this is P0 for us to fix and we’ll have a new release out in the next few hours with a fix. The PR is here https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/pull/9438/ if you want to follow along. To add more color to some of your points in the post above: * We give users the option t…

> build more trust

At this point I'm not sure we share the same understanding of what constitutes trust.

To me any connection initiated by a terminal app itself is terminal (pun intended) for its reputation, leave alone hideous things like online login or telemetry.

But that's just me: I'm old fashioned. And I'm sure plenty of people will continue to enjoy Warp.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#108
post #87

Can you confirm that Warp is NOT initiating any connection to any service whatsoever unless explicitly enabled in Settings? Warp had an account requirement in the beginning which spoke volumes about the misalignment of values. Now the terminal is not called a terminal, it is "the agentic development environment" (whatever that means) which also lowkey implies that it might have some kind of online features. But at th…

> Does it call home? Absolutely, in heaps. The very moment you start Warp, it sends 5 HTTP requests, (1 version check, 1 LLM model list, 3 telemetry events). The former two go to app.warp.dev, the latter 3 go to warpianwzlfqdq.dataplane.rudderstack.com and include a persistent UUID, your operating system and version, Warp version, and the tracked event name and its properties. All of this happens before you even see…

See @alokedesai himself confirming this in an answer below.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#109
post #103
post #2

> Open-sourcing is fundamentally coming from our desire to build a successful business. We are competing with other highly funded, closed-source competitors, and we think opening and providing the resources for the community to improve Warp is a smart way for us to accelerate product development. Yes, we are a VC funded startup, but we do not have the resources to compete on price or massively subsidize usage – we ne…

> Appreciate the candid take. Warp is great. Sorry but I can't read this statement in a tone is not absolutely dry sarcasm. Warp is a masterclass in how to have a great product statement, very nice UI and completely ruin it with greed, closed-source, and by not listening to your customers. I don't know who at Warp got replaced and wants to "fix" things, but they have a lot to overcome. At this point, it might not eve…

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47945823 for more insults.

Re: Warp is now open-source

#110
post #98
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their terminal is just Alacritty, why would you do all these extra steps instead of just using Alacritty, or Ghostty? The terminal emulator was never their selling point, the AI wrapper was. https://x.com/mitchellh/status/2049159764261925005

This is just incorrect. Warp predates the AI craze, and one of its original selling points was reimagining how the terminal could work: it could be more native, and act like a REPL/chat, instead of a grid of characters.

They have also innovated by requiring login (into a console!!) which is a very bold move. Today they have heaps of telemetry, so a privacy nightmare.

This is a terminal that is not designed for users.

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