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Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by tt24 »

delbronski wrote: post #84
tt24 wrote: post #36

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Saying this about a compute rental service is hilarious They have the power to do what exactly? Sell you some EC2 instances at reasonable prices? lol There’s organizations that have the power to openly kidnap and execute people and we’re being melodramatic about a few buildings with computers in them

Wasn’t it just a few months ago that a big tech CEO used his powers to gain access to all the US government data he wanted? Did you forget that already? Did you see any clips from Trumps inauguration? Weren’t the CEOs of these big tech companies sitting right behind him? Shall we even talk about Palantir? I think it’s pretty obvious what the power of these companies are. You have to have your head pretty deep in the…

Palantir makes dashboards haha, if anything they’re the least scary one on the list

> Wasn’t it just a few months ago that a big tech CEO used his powers to gain access to all the US government data he wanted

You’re so close! The organization you want to criticize here is the government. Hope that helps :)

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by chneu »

_pdp_ wrote: post #68

In a highly competitive markets, consumers win.

This isn't really true but keep thinking that.

This is one of those things capitalists tell themselves so they can keep believing the shtick. This is a good example of "head in the sand on purpose" thinking.

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by tt24 »

TitaRusell wrote: post #90
tt24 wrote: post #61

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Seriously I don’t understand how this is even a remote comparison lol If we’re worried about power there are other much scarier organizations to criticize first

I am worried about these batshit insane billionaire tech bros. They are already in the White House.

Maybe worry more about the organizations that actually have the power to do bad things rather than speculating about something that might happen at some point lol

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by chneu »

tt24 wrote: post #60
siliconc0w wrote: post #37

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They'll buy your politicians who will give them zero checks on raising energy prices or poisoning your children's minds

Have they been doing this? Evidence?

The trump family is literally in office and accepting bribes from every tech company in existence.

Lol how willfully ignorant can people be?

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by tt24 »

killjoywashere wrote: post #66
tt24 wrote: post #60

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Have they been doing this? Evidence?

How's a 170 million pieces of evidence for poisoning children's minds https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/09/...

How is this related to poisoning anyone’s mind

Looks like they collected some metrics. I’m fine with this

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by kirubakaran »

nadermx wrote: post #86
kirubakaran wrote: post #39

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Even the original gold rush pickaxe guy Sam Brannan went broke, and he practically had a monopoly on pickaxes by buying up the entire supply: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Brannan

Went broke "Following the divorce, he became a brewer and developed a problem with alcohol."

Well, if a divorce and drinking could make him go broke, he wasn't that wealthy, was he?

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by jeffbee »

TitaRusell wrote: post #91
jeffbee wrote: post #13

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The "picks and shovels" people from the dotcom days all went broke. The stuff they had convinced themselves and their investors was crucial turned out to be not important.

Nobody actually goes broke anymore man. They'll still be multi millionaires. They will still have a contact list. Hell you will receive a pardon if it comes to that. It's actually really hard for the aristocracy to end up in a Florida trailer park.

Well, I worked at a picks-and-shovels scam where four executives were convicted of federal offenses and two got prison sentences. I don't know if they are still rich or not.

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by tt24 »

chneu wrote: post #104
tt24 wrote: post #60

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Have they been doing this? Evidence?

The trump family is literally in office and accepting bribes from every tech company in existence. Lol how willfully ignorant can people be?

What does this have to do with my comment exactly?

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by delbronski »

tt24 wrote: post #101
delbronski wrote: post #84

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Wasn’t it just a few months ago that a big tech CEO used his powers to gain access to all the US government data he wanted? Did you forget that already? Did you see any clips from Trumps inauguration? Weren’t the CEOs of these big tech companies sitting right behind him? Shall we even talk about Palantir? I think it’s pretty obvious what the power of these companies are. You have to have your head pretty deep in the…

Palantir makes dashboards haha, if anything they’re the least scary one on the list > Wasn’t it just a few months ago that a big tech CEO used his powers to gain access to all the US government data he wanted You’re so close! The organization you want to criticize here is the government. Hope that helps :)

I see. So your brilliant logic is to reduce the actions and impact of multi billion dollar institutions down to simplified versions of the technical solutions they offer.

“You don’t need to worry bout them Palantir boys, they just make simple harmless dashboards. Don’t worry about the deep involvement in government surveillance, military targeting, and immigration enforcement.”

“Amazon just provides simple VMs. Ain’t no need to be concerned about worker treatment, anti-competitive practices, tax avoidance, and environmental impact.”

Is that it?

Re: Google banks on AI edge to catch up to cloud rivals Amazon and Microsoft

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Post by echelon »

Aerroon wrote: post #38
echelon wrote: post #19

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Google owns 92% of all "URL bars". They turned this into "search". Every brand or product has to competitively bid for its own identity in a monopoly competitive bidding market. It's downright evil. Look at Google's AI rivals having to spend hundreds of millions just so customers can find them. Google Anthropic or OpenAI and see what you get. The next admin needs to break Google up horizontally (not vertically) into…

> The next admin needs to break Google up horizontally (not vertically) into competing browsers, clouds, and search products. They all need to fight. Healthy capitalism is fiercely competitive. Not whatever this invasive species that preys on everything else is. That sounds great if you're rich and can afford to pay for all the million subscriptions that will pop up to replace what Google offers. Google offers an ins…

> Google offers an insane amount of value to people for free: YouTube, Android, Google Search, Trends, Scholar, Maps, Chrome, Translate, Gmail. These would all be paid subscription products without adsense (or some equivalent). And as paid products they would get the typical subscription enshittification over time.

That's false.

There are hundreds of free offerings in this and many other spaces offered by lots of other companies.

There does not have to be one monopoly controlling all of it for the freemium model and advertising to work.

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