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Sawe becomes first athlete to run a sub-two-hour marathon in a competitive race

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Post by loeg »

mbesto wrote: post #78
groggo wrote: post #20

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One gram of carbs is 4 calories., so more like 400 calories per hour. It was confusing when the running industry switched from calories to grams of carbs, but that's all anyone talks about now.

Because calories simply do not matter. At high intensities of working out, it's the amount of carbohydrates you can consume that allow more fuel to be burnt. "In the aerobic exercise domain up to ~100% of maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max), CHO is the dominant fuel, as CHO-based oxidative metabolism can be activated quickly, provide all of the fuel at high aerobic power outputs (> 85-90% VO2max) and is a more efficient f…

They're equivalent modulo some multiple. It doesn't matter which one we talk about, as long as we're consistent.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

pollymarket wrote: post #86
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #41

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That's a 9m10sec per mile for 2 hours. While I'd agree that there are millions or even billions of people who could train to do that, I think it's wrong to suggest that "pretty much anyone" could do that.

My predicted half time is under 2 hours and I was sedentary for years before starting to run 9 months ago, and I'm 40 years old. Endurance sports are quite accessible and don't require that much time, effort, or talent to get way better than the vast majority of people, it's just consistency.

I've been an endurance athlete most of my life, running 100 miles at 17, a 5:30 mile at 50, and lots of other stuff in between. I know that a 9min/mile pace is "easily achievable" by many folks, which is why I noted that millions or billions of people could do this. Nevertheless, I think it is really important to not overstate how achievable this is - there are many more people who could not do this than could, I think.

FWIW, that now includes me, as a 62 year old. I can hit 6:30 pace for 400m, but find it almost impossible to get under 10:0x for a mile. And that's even after 6 months of training for a 50 mile trail race.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

Noaidi wrote: post #48
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #45

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Better weather has, to the best of my knowledge, never been part of marathon record keeping. People do note in accounts of (e.g.) the Boston marathon that the weather was particularly atrocious in some years (hence a general slow down across the field), but weather "aided" fast times are not considered illegitimate or even worthy of note. Obviously, barring wind, which is why some marathon courses are not eligible fo…

> Better weather has, to the best of my knowledge, never been part of marathon record keeping. It should be.

Human response to temperature shows significant variation. 50F/10C may be absolutely ideal for one runner, but a little too cold for another. That's why you can't unambiguously declare a given race to be "a good weather day".

By contrast, hail/rain and wind will negatively impact almost everyone, which is why talking about "a bad weather day" makes more sense.

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Post by sowbug »

clutter55561 wrote: post #39
edo_cat wrote: post #8

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Speed limit is 20mph right? He ran 26.1 miles in 2 hours so average speed is 13 mph

Damn was thinking km/h. Thanks for the correction.

You actually can get a ticket for driving 13 in a 25, at least in the US, so you're not entirely incorrect.

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nikcub wrote: post #12

Stunning results at the top of the field. Some interesting takeaways on both fuelling and shoes. Maurten spent months working with Sawe and other runners getting their gut capacity trained so they could absorb and burn 100 carbs per hour[0][1] > The Maurten research team was embedded with Sawe’s team in Kenya for 32 days across six trips between last and this April. They were training his gut to absorb that load by m…

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Post by geargrinder »

Metacelsus wrote: post #92

It's always interesting to see East Africans doing so well. Even with technology like advances in shoes and diet/training, genetics is still a huge factor. Also it must be an crazy feeling to be Kejelcha, the guy who came in 2nd place. It would have been a world record, except for Sawe!

It was his first marathon, so he is probably thinking next time he will be the one to break the record.

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Post by brewdad »

andy_ppp wrote: post #93
canucker2016 wrote: post #69

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The Adidas Adios Pro Evo 3 - https://news.adidas.com/running/adidas-unveils-its-first-sub... adidas introduces the Adizero Adios Pro Evo 3 – the lightest and fastest Adizero shoe ever, weighing an average 97* grams. The race-day shoe represents the culmination of three years of cutting-edge research. It is 30% lighter, delivers 11% greater forefoot energy return, and improves running economy by 1.6% compared to its p…

You can buy them in the UK soon, just £450 and I suspect they'll disintegrate quickly... https://www.adidas.co.uk/adizero-adios-pro-evo-3-shoes/KH767...

Much like the road bikes that cost as much as a sedan, unless you are competing on a world stage, these aren’t meant for you.

I’m sure someone will happily sell them to you if you enjoy wasting money.

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Post by sergiotapia »

codezero wrote: post #94

Those shoes are gonna sell like crazy now but it would be hilarious if they were to be found to have been giving an unfair advantage because of some mechanical property of the shoe.

what else could it possibly be if not that?

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Post by hyperpape »

hackingonempty wrote: post #87
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #28

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The fastest marathoners are moving at 4m30sec per mile or faster. Very few mere mortals could run that fast for even 100m.

Here's a random high school in Northern California. Everyone on the team is beating 16.7 seconds in the 100m. For the 1600m there are six kids with times under 4m30s and another seven with times under 4m40s, all in the last month. https://www.athletic.net/team/770/track-and-field-outdoor/20... * of course one mile is hardly comparable to the marathon that pros are able to sustain such speeds over...

Unless kids have gotten a lot faster in the past 25 years, I think that's a lot better than a typical 2000 person high school.
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