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Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Debian is great, and is where the distro development actually happens. What doesn't it do that you want?

I’m curious about proprietary Nvidia drivers. Ubuntu normally comes with fairly outdated, if not obsolete ones, but there’s a semi-official PPA with more recent versions. How does Debian handle this?

> Ubuntu normally comes with fairly outdated, if not obsolete ones

Ubuntu 24.04 currently comes with 590, which is the most recent working driver.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

#102

After using Ubuntu for many years both on the desktop and server, recent decisions have got me thinking that Canonical has lost a lot of its community spirit. That got me switching over machines to Debian which, to me, still feels like a community project. It's a shame. I am pragmatic about it though so I still run Ubuntu for some things but it's no longer my first recommendation.

> recent decisions have got me thinking that Canonical has lost a lot of its community spirit

The rot set in when #ubuntu on Freenode (now Libera) became rigidly enforced as on-topic discussions of Ubuntu support only.

The channel is absolutely dead now. Maybe one person will say something in any given 12-hour period and no-one replies, just page after page of joins and parts.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Also green light for Fedora 44 release on 28 April https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproje...

Cool. I'm pretty excited for the new login manager. Maybe now KDE will be able to fit all customization options (wallpaper, lockscreen, login screen) on a single Settings page.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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I've just moved to a Mac for the first time, after using Windows for work for decades and Linux as my primary desktop for about 3 or 4 years. It certainly takes some getting use to: - Keyboard shortcuts are all different - Doesn't seem to like my Microsoft ergonomic keyboard (lots of keys do nothing) - I really hate the dock - Limited customisation on the menu bar - I also hate the universal menu thing / menu bar in…

As a both old Linux and now decade user of MacOS, after I got used to no middle-click paste and no focus-follows-mouse: 1. Keyboard shortcuts are Emacs, Ctrl-A: start of line, E: end of line, K: kill selected or to end of line, Y to paste, etc. https://support.apple.com/en-au/102650#text 2. Karabiner elements (FOSS) fixes keyboard mappings outside of the Settings: https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/ 3. I have the do…

Another point, if you enable Settings > Desktop & Dock > Mission Control > Displays have separate Spaces, then you get a menu bar for each display, which helps with the menubar / window being far apart.

That doesn't work with a single monitor though.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

#105
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Select middle click not working is a stupid decision from GNOME to disable in 50. You can turn it back on with the tweak tool.

Why do we still put up with GNOME? I've spent the last 10 years off and on from Linux. Had I used something other than GNOME, I believe my experience would have been better. I've been on KDE for the last 3-4 years and things work so well I could never imagine going back to GNOME.

Glad you like yours. I like (Vanilla) Gnome + PaperWM.

But seriously why would they disabled the middle mouse copy paste buffer by default? Anyways, gnome tweaks to the rescue I guess

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Ubuntu LTS is still the choice for many production environments and education and learning. As someone with Ubuntu from 2010 CDs, I find it refreshing that modern Ubuntu distros work OOB on most computers these days with excellent driver support.

Is this even true? I mean, Windows is the main focus for all hardware vendors, and everybody who has owned a PC knows that malfunctions are unavoidable. If that is the case for Windows, then Linux cant be better.

There's working, and there's working.

20 years ago your Linux installation might not include wifi drivers, bluetooth support, decent GPU drivers, fat32/ntfs drivers, or the widely used video/audio codecs of the era. And you had to be careful when shopping for things like wifi cards, as only certain chipsets could be made to work.

Much of which was kinda fair enough, because if you're a volunteer making an open source OS because of a strong belief on the open source ideal, you don't want to distribute closed-source driver blobs or patent-encumbered codecs. But it meant mean the initial installation process was not always easy. One of the things that contributed to the success of Ubuntu was a particularly easy initial setup process.

Today, things are a lot better - you'll still get unsupported hardware from time to time, but it'll be much less severe. If your laptop has a non-USB integrated camera you might have to download and install a kernel module. Your corporate laptop's built in fingerprint scanner might not work, but who cares?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

#107

What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

Just don't use snap. No need to throw out the baby woth the bathwater.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

#108

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> Why do we still put up with GNOME? Because maybe not all people have the same preferences as you?

There's much more to the story. GNOME is a sort of authoritarian organization known for their antisocial behavior: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotti... (and there's much, much more). Since GNOME is the default Ubuntu DE, they have a certain responsibily to listen to the users/devs and leave the system open (to an extent). But their direction is the opposite: https://web.archive.org/web/2021…

A distro making your project the default doesn't give you any responsibility.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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The beta installer was completely unsuccessful in setting the TPM-backed disk encryption on both a ThinkPad X1 Carbon (Intel 258V) and a ThinkPad P14s (AMD 300-something). Hopefully they ironed that part out in the release, but it seems still early for this feature (at least for my comfort level).

Same on my Framework Desktop. Looks like it works only with a limited number of TPM chips for now.

The constructed policy is quite strict and expects certain UEFI things to be set up correctly. For example both this https://github.com/canonical/secboot/blob/7434bac27844362ff8... and https://github.com/canonical/secboot/blob/7434bac27844362ff8... are enabled in the policy. The policy choices and various early checks, even as trivial as confirming that the TCG log content is correct after booting into installation system, are enough to rule out a lot of potentially problematic EFI deployments. Effectively making it more strict helps avoid a lot of funny issues where the firmware is clearly buggy and things would fall apart sooner or later.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

#110

Unfortunately they forgot to remove Rust coreutils and sudo-rs from Ubuntu prior to releasing 26.04. I am starting to suspect this even might be intentional.

Those packages can simply be reverted like dracut, at least for a few months of testing.

And yes, using a user-base as Beta testers is fairly cheeky. =3

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