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Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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> I’ve been saying since last year that by the end of 2026, people will be mostly programming by talking to a face. There’s absolutely NO reason to type with the Mayor. You should be able to chat with them like a person. You’ll have a cartoon fox there onscreen, in costume, building and managing your production software, and showing you pretty status updates whenever you ask for one. This is the end state for IDEs. T…

This sounds like PaulHoule wrote it.

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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Also I chuckled at the AI-generated "The Overseer is Alnays Right | Vacation Approved" poster in the background of the split image where the mayor is reading so you can supervise. This has strong Boondocks Catcher Freeman vibes. I want to hear the polecats/badgers' version.

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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Serious question - there's a lot of fluff talking about Gas Town, but has Gas Town shipping something in public that can be evaluated without all of this surrounding hype and blogposting? At this point it should be clear that Gas Town has done something we can evaluate the value of.

If the post does not have any use-cases proving value then perhaps this is something yet to be validated, i.e. the burden on the users, not the creators.

Wym? I can slop out 100 libraries/frameworks/packages/cli's a day, the onus is not on other people to prove that they are useful.

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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I can't believe people give this any air time at all. If it was just some rando producing slop people wouldn't give it the time of day.

I think we need to take a hard line with AI stuff like this, and put the onus on the creator to prove these ideas have merit.

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can always fire it up yourself and see what its all about. in my experience it generates a lot of code very quickly, that code is probably only ever supposed to be LLM maintained, not by people.

> that code is probably only ever supposed to be LLM maintained, not by people. But LLMs are trying to mimic people. So if confusion is the human response, what's to stop the llm from acting confused?

A mechanical ability to look at the code without having a judgement.

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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We're supposed to be engineers. Criticising a concept based on conjecture and insult is unbecoming of our culture.

> We're supposed to be engineers. Criticising a concept based on conjecture and insult is unbecoming of our culture. The entire thing is nothing but conjecture. No real software has been produced by the concept to date, except more garbage software that takes hundreds of thousands of lines where a few thousand would do. And to be clear, Beads and Gastown are unbecoming of our “culture” and any self respecting enginee…

How is it conjecture when you just admitted you're aware of a repo with hundreds of thousands of lines of code.

Your argument belies a lazyness or skill issue. You abandon the possibility of proof to sling mud.

People have made a shit ton of economic value with shit code over the course of history of software and now that's accelerating with this sort of shite. I appreciate its ugly but i will not follow you by fashioning a duvet out of arrogance and throwing rocks people investigating the ugly.

What they're doing it at least an interesting spectacle and ill wait for the show to end before writing my review.

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the post does not have any use-cases proving value then perhaps this is something yet to be validated, i.e. the burden on the users, not the creators.

Why would the onus on the value prop be on the user? There should be no shortage of examples the creator could provide, unless of course...

You're prompting it wrong!

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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Beads is cool, but I tried to use it, and the backend didn't really make sense. I have to run an sql database in the background? How does it sync with Git? (I didn't see any files/objects committed to the repo) Plus, Dolt ended up using a constant 3-30kB/s of i/o in the background, while nothing was actually going on. That and Beads has a lot of features I'm not gonna use. All of this was just too complicated for my…

Agreed that beads seems way over engineered for an issue tracker.

Re: Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0

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> I’ve been saying since last year that by the end of 2026, people will be mostly programming by talking to a face. There’s absolutely NO reason to type with the Mayor. You should be able to chat with them like a person. You’ll have a cartoon fox there onscreen, in costume, building and managing your production software, and showing you pretty status updates whenever you ask for one. This is the end state for IDEs. T…

>This is a desirable end state for [a category of people] who want to spend all day talking even though they aren't talking to a person.

When I am not in actual meetings, I do already spend all day talking to anthropomorphized facets of my personality that represent software architecture, security paranoia, operational practicality, user experience, etc. Often not by speaking aloud, but it's a conversation nonetheless.

So yes, this sounds absolutely grand.

EDIT: But I don't think it should be forced on everyone! Having the option to use the tools that work best for you should be the goal.

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