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OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

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Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

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post #90

I actually quite enjoy the OpenClaw. Although the recent CC crackdown has caused me to try different LLM providers which aren't that reliable but anyways, here are few things I do with it, in all separate groups. * Telegram Health Group, created an agent to help me track sleep, recommend my supplements based on my location, remind me in the morning and evening to monitor my food. I send it images of what I eat and it…

Are you concerned about telegram admins having access to that information?

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

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I'm using openclaw as a personal development bot, which is pretty useful. It pings me throughout the day using crons to complete tasks and follows up on them. But aside from that, it is a very unreliable piece of software. I'm constantly having to fix it, or track down correct configurations. It can just decide to randomly edit it's own config, uses incorrect json keys and then the whole thing is dead. Or it blows th…

Yeah I’m amazed how much constantly breaks between every release, I’m dreading to update it. I’m using it as a kind of personal assistant that keeps track of all my outstanding work. Morning and evening briefing, can get an overview of what I did per week / month, it’s pretty solid for keeping track of all this.

But it’s so terribly unstable, it’s as if nobody actually tests things before pushing a release. I don’t need 2 updates per day, I just need one every few weeks that’s stable.

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Status quo influences how good your proof has to be (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence) but not who needs to bring it.

Think more deeply about this. https://lastedenblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/professor-jame...

What a bizarre article. The morality of recreational torture is not a matter of factual correctness. Burden of proof is not a concept that makes any sense when there’s a disagreement over morality. You can make arguments for your position and those arguments may involve factual claims which can be proven or disproven, but the underlying morality can’t.

And then it ends with that sudden left turn into denouncing atheists as inherently irrational and evil. WTF?

Congratulations on bringing an argument so terrible that I’m actually more convinced of my position after having read it than I was before.

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

#104
post #21

From my perspective there are some people that have never built real processes in their life that enjoy having some processes now. But agent processes are less reliable slower and less maintenable then a process that is well-defined and architectured and uses llm’s only where no other solution is sufficient. Classification, drafting, summarizing. I’ve had a Whatsapp assistant since 2023, jailbraked as easy assistant.…

Vibe process automation

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

#105
post #94

You probably don't know how to setup memory. The killer usecase is letting you make whatever you want, instead of being at the mercy of what your OS/platform dictates. Your idea of a killer idea is a whatsapp summarizer lol.

I can already make whatever I want

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

#106
post #21

From my perspective there are some people that have never built real processes in their life that enjoy having some processes now. But agent processes are less reliable slower and less maintenable then a process that is well-defined and architectured and uses llm’s only where no other solution is sufficient. Classification, drafting, summarizing. I’ve had a Whatsapp assistant since 2023, jailbraked as easy assistant.…

Fully agree with your comment regarding real processes. Being a Six Sigma Black Belt, studying processes and reducing the errors is critical. The Openclaw processes at the moment scare me.

I'm only at Four Alpha Brown Belt still but once I pass my test I think I'll also understand why this is critical. I can't wait to get scared.

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

#107

I'm using openclaw as a personal development bot, which is pretty useful. It pings me throughout the day using crons to complete tasks and follows up on them. But aside from that, it is a very unreliable piece of software. I'm constantly having to fix it, or track down correct configurations. It can just decide to randomly edit it's own config, uses incorrect json keys and then the whole thing is dead. Or it blows th…

I had the same experience, now I just have a simple claude code session running with the new channel feature so it can take input and give output via a telegram bot.

It's not as fun with SOUL.md etc but so far much less janky.

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

#108
post #21

From my perspective there are some people that have never built real processes in their life that enjoy having some processes now. But agent processes are less reliable slower and less maintenable then a process that is well-defined and architectured and uses llm’s only where no other solution is sufficient. Classification, drafting, summarizing. I’ve had a Whatsapp assistant since 2023, jailbraked as easy assistant.…

This. So many junior engineers showing me AI flows that could just be a script with a few parameter inputs

You say that with the wisdom of experience.

But there's still value in people exploring new spaces they find interesting, even if they do not meet your personal definition of pareto-optimal.

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

#109

It would’ve happened eventually anyway, but OpenClaw is basically what kickstarted the beginning of the end of token subsidies. It’s a almost begging to be used wastefully. And agents would miss and lose nothing without it. It’s devoid of a reason to exist.

I hope not. We need a lot of new data centers. Let the tokens flow like water.

Re: OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think more deeply about this. https://lastedenblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/professor-jame...

What a bizarre article. The morality of recreational torture is not a matter of factual correctness. Burden of proof is not a concept that makes any sense when there’s a disagreement over morality. You can make arguments for your position and those arguments may involve factual claims which can be proven or disproven, but the underlying morality can’t. And then it ends with that sudden left turn into denouncing athei…

It appears that analytic philosophy may not be for you.
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