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Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by chermi »

dgellow wrote: post #22
gallerdude wrote: post #14

This would have been an amazing release 6 months ago. But the industry moves so fast, this is a trite release. Maybe it’s best for Meta to sell their superintelligence division. I don’t think Zuck’s vision is particularly compelling.

I never understood why meta decided to join the race. They don’t sell compute like Google or Microsoft. Why not let others do the hard work and integrate their LLMs in your systems if needed? I assume it’s because they have Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp, Thread data and feel they should be the ones using them for training, but it’s really not obvious how having a frontier AI lab benefits their business

You basically have to be involved if you're meta. Even if there's only 5% chance this AI stuff is as disruptive as the labs claim it is, you can't afford to miss out. Even if you're lagging frontier, you must develop the competency internally. Otherwise you ignored a 5% chance of total annihilation, probably even exposing you to shareholder lawsuits.

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by prodigycorp »

tty456 wrote: post #92

I don't get the comments trashing this. If it slightly beats or even matches Opus 4.6, it means Meta is capable of building a model competitive with the leading AI company. Sure, they spent a lot of money and will have on-going costs. But how much more work would it take to turn that into a coding agent people are willing to try (and pay for) along side their usage of a collection of agents (Claude, Codex, etc)? Also…

Comments trashing this are rightly correct skeptics who remember the benchmaxxing of llama 4. This model was out in the woods as early as like a couple months ago but they didn't release it because it was at gemini 2.5 pro levels.

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by hungryhobbit »

hackrmn wrote: post #98

The hero image on the linked page, which consists of a muted teal background with the words "Introducing Muse Spark", weighs in at 3,5MB. I don't even...

Someday our robot overlords will be intelligent enough to ... optimize images!

(But today is not that day.)

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by ehutch79 »

serf wrote: post #81
ehutch79 wrote: post #67

How's the metaverse doing? It was the next big thing and how we're all going to be working inside it in... was it like 3 months ago? Maybe they need to mine more libra coin first? or is it diem now? is that even still part of meta? I'm sure this new AI is super intelligent and super awesome and will be writing all the code, making all the blog posts, and generating all our youtube shorts in 6 months.

what's with the negativity? yeah, the metaverse got abandoned. Also: Meta was the only one to try the concept for the past X-umpteen years even though everyone in the industry ga-gas over virtual reality worlds and workplaces at every opportunity. It's literally Meta and Linden Labs (which has been on life support for 10+ years.) The alternative is : no one does it and nothing gets abandoned, which the industry has s…

It's not the failure here or there, it's a pattern. It's not even the failing, it's the excessive hype cycle.

We keep seeing things being overhyped, with not much thought behind it. Meta is particularly bad about it. They changed their name for the hype of their VR product, when VR was still niche and had a long way to go, and still does. They couldn't even figure out legs for launch.

Now they have a 'superintellegence'? Yeah, that sounds like just the latest in a line of bullshit. Why would this be different.

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by hnav »

eranation wrote: post #100

So this is why Anthropic rushed the weirdest "pre-responsible-disclosure-totally-not-for-marketing" announcement yesterday? To make sure Spark doesn't steal their thunder? (Spark beats Opus 4.6 on some benchmarks...). Or did I become a bitter cynical old man.

It's giving "OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)"

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by khalic »

dist-epoch wrote: post #58
daft_pink wrote: post #43

This really reinforces the idea that the AI race and the Railroad Mania of the 19th century are very similar. So many different companies are going to have similarly powerful ai that there will be no moat around it and it will be cheap. They will never earn their investment back.

The moat is in the compute and the energy access. And further down the line in chips, which is why Elon is building a fab now. There are plenty of capable models on HuggingFace, yet I have no way of running them.

Give it a few years, or month. Tiny models are getting outrageously good

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by zozbot234 »

prodigycorp wrote: post #102
tty456 wrote: post #92

I don't get the comments trashing this. If it slightly beats or even matches Opus 4.6, it means Meta is capable of building a model competitive with the leading AI company. Sure, they spent a lot of money and will have on-going costs. But how much more work would it take to turn that into a coding agent people are willing to try (and pay for) along side their usage of a collection of agents (Claude, Codex, etc)? Also…

Comments trashing this are rightly correct skeptics who remember the benchmaxxing of llama 4. This model was out in the woods as early as like a couple months ago but they didn't release it because it was at gemini 2.5 pro levels.

The llama4 series was one of the earliest large MoE's to be made publically available. People just ignored it because they were focused on running smaller and denser models at the time, we should know better these days.

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by bguberfain »

We all know it... but I think they were very bold in this warning about using your private messages to train public models. _Your messages with AIs will be used to improve AI at Meta. Don't share information, including sensitive topics, about others or yourself that you don't want the AI to retain and use_

Re: Muse Spark: Scaling towards personal superintelligence

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Post by reissbaker »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #72
throwaw12 wrote: post #35

How is that Meta spent so much money for talent and hardware, but the model barely matches Opus 4.6? Especially, looking at these numbers after Claude Mythos, feels like either Anthropic has some secret sauce, or everyone else is dumber compared to the talent Anthropic has

Matching Opus 4.6 would be pretty good? It’s the SOTA actually available model

Muse Spark doesn't even match GLM-5.1 on most benchmarks. And GLM is open source!
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