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Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

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Article asks what next. I know what's next. It is similar with crypto wars. They try and try until they have backdoor everywhere. About verification they will try to implement WEI on browsers, and verification on os. It is a crusade to make you always identifiable. Companies and governments want it so much because it is so valuable to them, it adds so much power over people. So what's next. They will move borders her…

Of course, it's pretty easy to see through this: introduce law in a few states, but now every OS needs to comply and because it's hard to actually tell which country/state user is in, they'd just have to implement it for everyone. It will be verification through some third party. You can opt out, but then major websites will be forced to deny you access (by, for example, Cloudflare) unless your OS provides a verified and signed certificate of your age. Then it's done: nothing will be possible without an ID, which means no dissent will be tolerated.

Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

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> instead of forcing platforms like Facebook to be less evil, we should give parents the ability to simply uninstall Facebook, and prevent it from being installed by the child. Isn't that how parental controls already work? There are problems, though: 1. The kids want to use Facebook. If parent A refuses to let their kid use Facebook, then kids B, C, D, E, F... all use Facebook and kid A becomes a social outcast. Thi…

1. The current norm of social siloing apps was created by these tech companies in the first place. What regulators can do is discourage anti-competitive practices that lock users into specific software and hardware platforms. If there's plenty of competition for every kind of social app, and competition for OSes, and users could freely choose and move between them, then not having a particular app would not result in…

> Phone companies have decided you don't need that feature.Bu actually, they can easily implement a nice UI in the settings for the firewall and lock it behind a password, then parents would be able to use it to block individual websites.

iOS: Settings > Screen Time > Content & Privacy Restrictions > Toggle on

Then same area:

- App Installations & Purchases: disallow all

- App Store, Media, Web & Games > Web Content > Limit Adult Websites > Fill in allowlist and/or denylist, or Only Approved Websites and fill in allowlist

Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

#105

People need to understand the difference between age indication and age verification . Two very different things. Age indication is a completely private and realistically as-effective alternative to the invasive age verification . Age _indication_ means that when you set up your device or create a user account, you enter a date of birth for the user. The OS then provides a native API to return a user's age bracket (n…

There are two things very very wrong with the California law, which you call "age indication". 1) The parental responsibility is given to the wrong people. You're basically being forced by law to give all apps and websites your child's age on request, and then trusting those online platforms to serve the right content (lol). It should be the other way around. The apps and websites should broadcast the age rating of t…

If we accept the premise that age restrictions of any kind are good (which, just to be clear, I don't think we should), there are good reasons for tailoring your content based on the user's age.

Imagine you're a streaming service, trying to show a list of movies that a user can watch. If you can only communicate age restrictions to the OS, but can't actually check the users age, you have a choice of showing a list of movies that some users won't actually be able to watch, or a list of movies limited to those appropriate for all ages. Neither are great options.

If you can check the user's age bracket, you can actually tailor the list to what the user can realistically watch.

Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

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People need to understand the difference between age indication and age verification . Two very different things. Age indication is a completely private and realistically as-effective alternative to the invasive age verification . Age _indication_ means that when you set up your device or create a user account, you enter a date of birth for the user. The OS then provides a native API to return a user's age bracket (n…

Most importantly, people need to understand how indication leads to verification.

Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two things very very wrong with the California law, which you call "age indication". 1) The parental responsibility is given to the wrong people. You're basically being forced by law to give all apps and websites your child's age on request, and then trusting those online platforms to serve the right content (lol). It should be the other way around. The apps and websites should broadcast the age rating of t…

If we accept the premise that age restrictions of any kind are good (which, just to be clear, I don't think we should), there are good reasons for tailoring your content based on the user's age. Imagine you're a streaming service, trying to show a list of movies that a user can watch. If you can only communicate age restrictions to the OS, but can't actually check the users age, you have a choice of showing a list of…

There are only about 120 versions to target if you pick each individual age - or a handful if you bracket it. You can simply create a lookup table for eachage group and let the user's device decide which one to show.

Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

#108

People need to understand the difference between age indication and age verification . Two very different things. Age indication is a completely private and realistically as-effective alternative to the invasive age verification . Age _indication_ means that when you set up your device or create a user account, you enter a date of birth for the user. The OS then provides a native API to return a user's age bracket (n…

There are two things very very wrong with the California law, which you call "age indication". 1) The parental responsibility is given to the wrong people. You're basically being forced by law to give all apps and websites your child's age on request, and then trusting those online platforms to serve the right content (lol). It should be the other way around. The apps and websites should broadcast the age rating of t…

Apps need to know the age of the user in order to follow the law. There will always need to be a way for apps to get the age of the user. If the OS does not give anything the apps will have to implement it themselves.

Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

#109

People need to understand the difference between age indication and age verification . Two very different things. Age indication is a completely private and realistically as-effective alternative to the invasive age verification . Age _indication_ means that when you set up your device or create a user account, you enter a date of birth for the user. The OS then provides a native API to return a user's age bracket (n…

A pointless slippery slope to attempt to stand on that points directly at the Overton Window being drawn around this.

Is it? A lot of parents uses Family Link and similar solutions, which are way more invasive than that.

Re: Age verification on Systemd and Flatpak

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two things very very wrong with the California law, which you call "age indication". 1) The parental responsibility is given to the wrong people. You're basically being forced by law to give all apps and websites your child's age on request, and then trusting those online platforms to serve the right content (lol). It should be the other way around. The apps and websites should broadcast the age rating of t…

If we accept the premise that age restrictions of any kind are good (which, just to be clear, I don't think we should), there are good reasons for tailoring your content based on the user's age. Imagine you're a streaming service, trying to show a list of movies that a user can watch. If you can only communicate age restrictions to the OS, but can't actually check the users age, you have a choice of showing a list of…

The user can voluntarily give the platform their age by typing it into their account profile in that streaming app. You can already do this right now. No laws required.

The problem at hand is we have a new law that forces everyone to give their age to every app. It's mandatory personal info collection.

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