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European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by efilife »

broken-kebab wrote: post #98

I think we have enough petty chauvinisms, there's no need to breed an EU variety. Europe does it better? Dunno, European gov'ts are full of ideas about backdooring, with one of those failing by just one vote recently. Also the website is impractical, it simply groups brands vs brands without much detail.

> there's no need to breed an EU variety.

So you want most of the internet controlled by US? I'm not exactly keen on giving my info to a foreign country when I can pick something in the EU

> European gov'ts are full of ideas about backdooring,

America has an ongoing scandal about surveillance cameras

Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by MidnightRider39 »

outsidein wrote: post #36

The affiliate information shows that it the website shows mostly / only affiliate offers, and omits (intentionally?) much better a lternatives like posteo.de for email. Listed vendors like OVHcloud must follow the US cloud act, so not really independent from US. Just advertising, no real privacy focused.

Posteo is really good - switched there years ago from gmail and never looked back.

Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by DocTomoe »

It's ironic to call something 'Europe does it better' when all alternatives mentioned are - objectively - worse, sometimes catastrophically worse than the things they are meant to replace.

This is especially true for offers that are content-related. Claiming that RTL+ is anywhere NEAR Netflix is insulting. I love GOG, but the library and ease-of-use of Steam is unmatched (to the point that half of my GOG library does no longer run on the hardware I own because apparently they don't keep updates in mind.)

Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by efilife »

azangru wrote: post #65
miyuru wrote: post #41

only-eu.eu registered on Porkbun LLC and hosted on Cloudflare, Inc https://whois.eurid.eu/en/search/?domain=only-eu MX points to route1.mx.cloudflare.net as well. they should use their own product before giving others advice.

> registered on Porkbun LLC and hosted on Cloudflare, Inc And is built with Astro, which was created by an American, existed as an American company, and then was absorbed by Cloudflare.

Using Astro and giving your data to American companies are two entirely different things

Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by iainmerrick »

xixixao wrote: post #99
stingraycharles wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The website uses Cloudflare for hosting. If they were just even a little bit serious, they wouldn’t have used a US provider for hosting.

If you were just a little bit serious you wouldn’t be discussing this on a site run by Y-Combinator! (the “angry” comments are so tiring)

They’re pointing out the hypocrisy in this website. The comment itself isn’t hypocritical as they haven’t taken a stance on US versus EU services.

Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by tuukkah »

stingraycharles wrote: post #95
hk__2 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The domain registration date doesn’t tell anything about the amount of effort put in it. I usually register the domains of my side-projects only when I’m at 80% done; otherwise I would buy dozens of domains I would never use.

The website uses Cloudflare for hosting. If they were just even a little bit serious, they wouldn’t have used a US provider for hosting.

If you want to help orgs who have come to the conclusion they need to diversify to EU services, it does not mean you have to have come to the same conclusion! Also, it's not the same kind of dependency if you get or buy something one-off from a website like this, as if you build your org on top of a single platform/jurisdiction.

Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by inexcf »

neya wrote: post #23

Home page boldly claims: EuRopE dOeS iT BeTtEr. There is literally a story trending on HN right now: Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy. This superiority complex ne…

Proton is quite the bad example. Technically european but not in the EU and thus horrible privacy and data security regulations while claiming that being in Switzerland makes them trustworthy.

Re: European alternatives to Google, Apple, Dropbox and 120 US apps

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

nelox wrote: post #82
kzrdude wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Europe is a geographical region, the only question is where does it border neighboring regions (Asia). There is no ambiguity about whether Switzerland or Norway and so on are in Europe. They are.

Eurovision includes Australia

Andisrael.
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