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Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

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Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

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Again, that 395 number is not the total number of tweets, it's the number of tweets that included geolocation data. That 395 was likely a subset of the total number of racist tweets.

And if it were 1,000? 5,000? 25,000? You're still talking epsilon-level percentages here.

"Epsilon-level percentages" isn't really a useful concept. As a sample size grows, phenomena become significant at smaller percentages. The set of all tweets is gigantic, so we can still make significant observations based on a "small" subset.

The point of this article is not to say "look at how many racists there are on Twitter." The point is to say "Let's look at the racist people on Twitter. What is the geographical distribution?"

395 geotagged tweets is absolutely enough to start making some interesting observations. Those observations can only be about relatively broad regions at that sample size, but they are interesting nonetheless.

Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

#102

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Why do you respond when you can't even be bothered to read TFA? The criteria used to find the tweets was very clearly described in footnote 1. Regarding your #4: just shut up.

Would you please edit your #4 response to be more informative and thoughtful, or remove it? It is currently incendiary and not helpful, and as someone who has exchanged emails with you privately in the past (financial industry software opportunities) I know you can write something better here.

Yeah, it's not the most professional way to put things. The question itself is, frankly, ridiculous -- I only see two ways to parse it:

1) This person is asking for a philosophical discussion on the nature of semantics. Given the incendiary context here, if that is a sincere desire, I consider that to be sophistry.

2) This person is impossibly naive about society, the world and the state of current affairs. In this case they should be listening more and speaking less.

At any rate, thank you for your comments and your faith in my abilities. I genuinely appreciate your not flaming me, however deserved, and expressing your concern calmly instead.

However, although rash and inarticulate, stating my feelings the way I did communicates an emotional punch that my outline above doesn't. And although I do sometimes delete hastily-written comments, in this case I will leave my name it. I don't care much for people who can't see the forest for the trees on this issue. Arguing the semantics of racial epithets is, frankly, bullshit.

Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

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post #77

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There is a reason those are not acceptable sources...

Bah, I read news from as many sources as I can. I find that when people turn up their noses at FoxNews, the Drudge Report, Huffpo, or Salon just because of the source - it's usually because they're insecure about their fragile belief system... scared that they might read something that's true which will force them to re-think their positions.

Yeah, I inform my world view with Cosmopolitan and the The National Enquirer as well.

Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

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post #65

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I have a huge problem with people submitting bug reports because it needlessly creates the perception that the software is buggy. Pointing out racism has nothing to do with "stirring racial divides". This appears to be a reasonably sophisticated analysis, the methodology was clearly explained. It certainly, at least, appears they didn't just make up a bunch of numbers. If you disagree, then find data and make your ca…

He did make his case - 395 racist tweets out of 120 million voters is practically background noise. You should expect all manner of extreme behavior on a sample size that large.

The sample was from a subset (geolocated tweets) and involved only a very specific set of keywords. In other words, this was not an exercise to see how many racist tweets there are. It was an exercise to see where the racist tweets generally come from. All that was needed here was a relatively small random sample. So the analysis, at least in terms of the sample size itself, is almost certainly valid. You may have misunderstood the point of the post...

Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

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post #58

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I have the exact same problem, I'm sure that there are many racists in our country, but this graphic is pretty garbage. 1) There are about 35 to 40 million Americans on Twitter, (15% of the 78.1% of online Americans). 2) Does the percentage of twitter users per state factor into this, it seems not. 3) " A score of 1.0 indicates that a state has relatively the same number of hate speech tweets as its total number of t…

Why do you respond when you can't even be bothered to read TFA? The criteria used to find the tweets was very clearly described in footnote 1. Regarding your #4: just shut up.

>Regarding your #4: just shut up.

The problem with racism is not that it targets people of color. It's that it targets them in order to treat them bad. The KKK wouldn't be any better if they targeted people blindly. So, I take offense with your behavior here: being rude to everybody and anybody is just as bad as being racist in a tweet.

The arguments put forth in the parent comments seem perfectly valid. The sample is in the region of statistical noise, and as such gives very little information about the matter.

Also, I believe that Twitter as a sampling space is flawed. E.g places like Mississippi and Alabama might have far more rampant racism than California, but be underrepresented in the category of "people with tweeter accounts" because of poverty rates.

Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election

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post #18

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What about the people that voted for Obama—just because he's black? Isn't that racist too? What about the people who voted for Obama out of fear of being labeled racist? Isn't that blackmail? I've no idea how widespread those cases are, but I do wonder.

What about the people who voted for Romney because he is white? What kind of question is that even? Suddenly when it's a black guy THAT'S the issue. How brain dead. Wanting your kid to have positive black role models is not racist, no. That's a not very sophisticated but very valid and certainly not racist reason for voting for Obama that's entirely based on race.

If I offended you, I apologize for that. I'm not trying to offend or label anyone racist, I'm trying to point out the double standard. Technically I'm baiting the discussion by begging the question:

    If a white man votes for a white man because he is white, he is racist.

    If a black man votes for a black man because he is black, he is participating in black pride.
Wait, what?!

> Suddenly when it's a black guy THAT'S the issue. How brain dead.

Nope, the issue is that the same standard isn't applied to BOTH groups. The same issue applies to the straight/gay debate: why is it discrimination when someone straight is in a straight-pride parade, but not a gay person in a gay-pride parade?

> Wanting your kid to have positive black role models is not racist, no. That's a not very sophisticated but very valid and certainly not racist reason for voting for Obama that's entirely based on race.

I'm not going to go into why I think Obama is a bad role model. I'm white, but I have people I consider as role models...

My black role models are:

  1. A police officer in Baltimore, whom I call my uncle and has been there for me more than my biological uncles.
  2. A parole officer in Baltimore for juvenile delinquents. He's in his job just to give kids a chance to work out their problems, and to change from the gang/criminal mentality they've had.
  3. And a woman who, as a single mother, raised two daughters and sent them to college by hard work and sheer economy. And now she suffers greatly from diabetes and arthritis but still refuses to give up. She encourages ME every time I see her.
I've seen the lives of these people and respect them greatly. From what I've seen of Obama he doesn't even measure up. If he did, I could have considered voting for him.

So please, don't assume that I'm calling you names or wanting to attack you because you might've voted for Obama because he's black. I just want you to consider: could you have been racist? And maybe you'll think of me next time I vote for a white person, and think better of me than "he's racist".

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