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Re: Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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Hi all! I work on the Gemma team, one of many as this one was a bigger effort given it was a mainline release. Happy to answer whatever questions I can

On LM Studio I'm only seeing models/google/gemma-4-26b-a4b Where can I download the full model? I have 128GB Mac Studio

They are all on hugging face

Re: Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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Will larger-parameter versions be released?

We are always figuring out what parameter size makes sense. The decision is always a mix between how good we can make the models from a technical aspect, with how good they need to be to make all of you super excited to use them. And its a bit of a challenge what is an ever changing ecosystem. I'm personally curious is there a certain parameter size you're looking for?

how good they need to be to make all of you super excited to use them

Isn't that more dictated by the competition you're facing from Llama and Qwent?

Re: Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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I ran these in LM Studio and got unrecognizable pelicans out of the 2B and 4B models and an outstanding pelican out of the 26b-a4b model - I think the best I've seen from a model that runs on my laptop. https://simonwillison.net/2026/Apr/2/gemma-4/ The gemma-4-31b model is completely broken for me - it just spits out "---\n" no matter what prompt I feed it. I got a pelican out of it via the AI Studio API hosted model…

Do you think it's just part of their training set now?

If it's part of their training set why do the 2B and 4B models produce such terrible SVGs?

Re: Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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post #77

I ran these in LM Studio and got unrecognizable pelicans out of the 2B and 4B models and an outstanding pelican out of the 26b-a4b model - I think the best I've seen from a model that runs on my laptop. https://simonwillison.net/2026/Apr/2/gemma-4/ The gemma-4-31b model is completely broken for me - it just spits out "---\n" no matter what prompt I feed it. I got a pelican out of it via the AI Studio API hosted model…

Your posting of the pelican benchmark is honestly the biggest reason I check the HackerNews comments on big new model announcements

All hail the pelican king!

Re: Google releases Gemma 4 open models

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will larger-parameter versions be released?

We are always figuring out what parameter size makes sense. The decision is always a mix between how good we can make the models from a technical aspect, with how good they need to be to make all of you super excited to use them. And its a bit of a challenge what is an ever changing ecosystem. I'm personally curious is there a certain parameter size you're looking for?

Something in the 60B to 80B range would still be approachable for most people running local models and also could give improved results over 31B.

Also, as I understand it the 26B is the MOE and the 31B is dense - why is the larger one dense and the smaller one MOE?

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