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Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by red-iron-pine »

prplxd_nihilist wrote: post #60

> Men are ditching TV for YouTube this, and > as AI usage and social media fatigue grow this are not congruent, you are shown way more AI slop in YT than TV, where it is growing - but still no match. If anything, AI fatigue must be making people spend less time on the web. The write-up in the article itself is contradicting this title. Bad title.

the slop has been in regular TV for decades.

and even if it's not algorithmically generated in a direct sense it is clearly subject matter made and selected by algorithm.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by butlike »

twobitshifter wrote: post #66
eru wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't watch on mobile, is there anything that YouTube Premiums gives you that an ad-blocker doesn't?

YouTube music, higher quality video, and the ‘jump ahead’ feature to skip portions of a video that others usually skip.

You can do this manually on the free plan. Mouse over the playhead and you'll see a graph. You can click the highest point in the graph which is where most people clicked through to.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by butlike »

seydor wrote: post #35

Youtube charges $10 per month and doesn't produce a single video. It's an amazing money maker for them and the only media subscription i pay for (to avoid ads on TVs). They should quit it with the Shorts though, nobody likes those

It didn't used to be like this though, and it feels bad to feel like a rat in a cage with YT. It's an un-winnable situation, choosing between excessive ads and paying the racketeer to be safe from the racket. It just really exemplifies their de-facto monopoly on internet video, and it makes me feel bad.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by bonoboTP »

wrxd wrote: post #68
bonoboTP wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heavily use the "Not interested" and the "Do not recommend this channel" options a lot and don't click on clickbait, and use the DeArrow extension, and this way my front page looks quite good.

At this point you’re doing almost as much work as if you handpicked a few channels and put them in your RSS reader. Algorithms are sold as “curation is hard, the algorithm does it for you” but getting the algorithm to do a good job is actually a lot of work

No, I often get nice recommendations from the long tail, like interesting academic talks or tinkerer channels, videos sometimes with only a few hundred views or even fewer.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by ryandrake »

shalmanese wrote: post #99
fragmede wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, it'll pick up recommendations from watching one thing one time, so watching that one video your weird uncle sent you is enough to pollute your algorithm with his weirdo shit.

You can mark a video as not to influence your recommendations or delete it from your YouTube history.

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Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by hnlmorg »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #100
hnlmorg wrote: post #49

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I don’t think the schedule argument is a strong one these days. DVRs have been around for decades now, and built into satellite and cable services too. In fact, some TVs even have DVR functionality built in. What annoys me is when streaming services release shows on a weekly basis. Which makes them just as inconvenient to watch as traditional broadcasting.

you could just, like, watch it the next day do you need to binge all of the episodes at once?

But my point was that you cannot watch it the next day. You have to wait until the following week.

And why shouldn’t people binge all the episodes at once? If that’s how they want to watch a series then who are we to say it’s wrong?

Let’s also not forget that the entire point of this tangent was people wanting to watch shows on their own schedule.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by twobitshifter »

tjpnz wrote: post #44
twobitshifter wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean it’s just $10. People are making livelihoods based off from YouTube. I get not liking ads, but if you have the option to go ad free for a low cost, why not do it? Do you pay for any of Netflix, Paramount, AppleTV, etc.?

I would prefer to pay that money to creators directly than to pay it to an adtech firm and trust that they'll dole it out fairly.

Isn’t it a hassle to pay everyone for each video you watch? Do you use the Super Thanks feature or do it some other way?

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by scoofy »

techjamie wrote: post #94
TheRoque wrote: post #18

Youtube is also pretty boring though. I mean, there are ton of interesting content and quality content too, but the stuff that gets recommended, the "hype stuff" is full of false information, clickbait, tweaked reality to conform some narrative...

I highly recommend using the "Not interested" button on anything you don't want to see. It's actually pretty effective at pruning unwanted things from your recommendations. If I get anything political or slop related, it gets the not interested button. I also have a second channel for language learning where I used it to prune out any videos in English. It's not perfect and recommends a few still, but they get more r…

I will try this. I have no idea what is wrong with the algo, but I've honestly thought youtube has gone way downhill since the pandemic.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by fragmede »

shalmanese wrote: post #99
fragmede wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, it'll pick up recommendations from watching one thing one time, so watching that one video your weird uncle sent you is enough to pollute your algorithm with his weirdo shit.

You can mark a video as not to influence your recommendations or delete it from your YouTube history.

Yes but you have to go and do that. GP was making it sound like GGP was watching crazy uncle videos to make the algorithm do that, when in reality, one errant click will pollute your suggestions unless you know to go and delete it.

New prank on someone that left their laptop unlocked. Open YouTube to something they hate and then close it before they get back.

Re: Men are ditching TV for YouTube as AI usage and social media fatigue grow

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Post by eudamoniac »

Gualdrapo wrote: post #72
csantini wrote: post #61

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Agree! So many great genuine creators, but the algo keeps pushing only clickbaity shit

Everyone was a genuine creator but was corrupted at some point. It will happen to your favorite creator too.

EthosLab is immune to this
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