LLMs on device is the future. It's more secure and solves the problem of too much demand for inference compared to data center supply, it also would use less electricity. It's just a matter of getting the performance good enough. Most users don't need frontier model performance.
"Most users don't need frontier model performance" unfortunately, this is not the case.
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Any citations? Because that was my impression, too. I want frontier model performance for my coding assistant, but "most users" could do with smaller/faster models. ChatGPT free falls back to GPT-5.2 Mini after a few interactions.
Have you used GPT instant or mini yourself? I think it’s pretty cynical to assume that this is “good enough for most people”, even if they don’t know the difference between that and better models.
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#103LLMs on device is the future. It's more secure and solves the problem of too much demand for inference compared to data center supply, it also would use less electricity. It's just a matter of getting the performance good enough. Most users don't need frontier model performance.
"Most users don't need frontier model performance" unfortunately, this is not the case.
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I have journaled digitally for the last 5 years with this expectation. Recently I built a graphRAG app with Qwen 3.5 4b for small tasks like classifying what type of question I am asking or the entity extraction process itself, as graphRAG depends on extracted triplets (entity1, relationship_to, entity2). I used Qwen 3.5 27b for actually answering my questions. It works pretty well. I have to be a bit patient but tha…
Did you get any insights about yourself from this process? I am thinking of doing the same
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Yes but perhaps not in a way you might expect. Qwen's reasoning ability isn't exactly groundbreaking. But it's good enough to weave a story, provided it has some solid facts or notes. GraphRAG is definitely a good way to get some good facts, provided your notes are valuable to you and/or contain some good facts.
So the added value is that you now have a super charged information retrieval system on your notes with an LLM that can stitch loose facts reasonably well together, like a librarian would. It's also very easy to see hallucinations, if you recognize your own writing well, which I do.
The second thing is that I have a hard time rereading all my notes. I write a lot of notes, and don't have the time to reread any of them. So oftentimes I forget my own advice. Now that I have a super charged information retrieval system on my notes, whenever I ask a question: the graphRAG + LLM search for the most relevant notes related to my question. I've found that 20% of what I wrote is incredibly useful and is stuff that I forgot.
And there are nuggets of wisdom in there that are quite nuanced. For me specifically, I've seen insights in how I relate to work that I should do more with. I'll probably forget most things again but I can reuse my system and at some point I'll remember what I actually need to remember. For example, one thing I read was that work doesn't feel like work for me if I get to dive in, zoom out, dive in, zoom out. Because in the way I work as a person: that means I'm always resting and always have energy for the task that I'm doing. Another thing that it got me to do was to reboot a small meditation practice by using implementation intentions (e.g. "if I wake up then I meditate for at least a brief amount of time").
What also helps is to have a bit of a back and forth with your notes and then copy/paste the whole conversation in Claude to see if Claude has anything in its training data that might give some extra insight. It could also be that it just helps with firing off 10 search queries and finds a blog post that is useful to the conversation that you've had with your local LLM.
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Frontier model has much better knowledge and they usually hallucinate less. It's not about the coding capabilities, it's about how much you can trust the model.
re: trust- Have you tried the free version of ChatGPT? It is positively appalling. It’s like GPT 3.5 but prompted to write three times as much as necessary to seem useful. I wonder how many people have embarrassed themselves, lost their jobs, and been critically misinformed. All easy with state-of-the-art models but seemingly a guarantee with the bottom sub-slop tier. Is the average person just talking to it about th…
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#106LLMs on device is the future. It's more secure and solves the problem of too much demand for inference compared to data center supply, it also would use less electricity. It's just a matter of getting the performance good enough. Most users don't need frontier model performance.
"Most users don't need frontier model performance" unfortunately, this is not the case.
But a local model + good harness with a robust toolset will work for people more often than not.
The model itself doesn't need to know who was the president of Zambia in 1968, because it has a tool it can use to check it from Wikipedia.
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Oh does llama.cpp use MLX or whatever? I had this question, wonder if you know? A search suggests it doesn’t but I don’t really understand.
>Oh does llama.cpp use MLX or whatever? No. It runs on MacOS but uses Metal instead of MLX.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Frontier model has much better knowledge and they usually hallucinate less. It's not about the coding capabilities, it's about how much you can trust the model.
re: trust- Have you tried the free version of ChatGPT? It is positively appalling. It’s like GPT 3.5 but prompted to write three times as much as necessary to seem useful. I wonder how many people have embarrassed themselves, lost their jobs, and been critically misinformed. All easy with state-of-the-art models but seemingly a guarantee with the bottom sub-slop tier. Is the average person just talking to it about th…
You can try asking it the same question as Claude and compare the answers. I can guarantee you that the ChatGPT answer won't fit on a single screen on a 32" 4k monitor.
Claude's will.
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Oh does llama.cpp use MLX or whatever? I had this question, wonder if you know? A search suggests it doesn’t but I don’t really understand.
>Oh does llama.cpp use MLX or whatever? No. It runs on MacOS but uses Metal instead of MLX.
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#110I created "apfel" https://github.com/Arthur-Ficial/apfel a CLI for the apple on-device local foundation model (Apple intelligence) yeah its super limited with its 4k context window and super common false positives guardrails (just ask it to describe a color) ... bit still ... using it in bash scripts that just work without calling home / out or incurring extra costs feels super powerful.
nice project, thanks for sharing. any plans for providing it through brew for easy installation?