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America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #74
throw0101c wrote: post #70

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> Can't read the Atlantic any more since it became private It has always been in private ownership, never having been owned by a publicly traded company: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlantic#Ownership_and_edi... Currently majority ownership is with Laurene Powell Jobs (widow of Steve Jobs).

Good information, but this is a time I don't mean stock ownership. More like "members only" for the website where they don't accept "strangers" like they used to do :(

Just stop JavaScript from executing and it's still public.

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by Aushin »

jmyeet wrote: post #62
adventured wrote: post #53

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The deep state is any agent of meaningful power/influence that works for the government or is very closely entangled with the government, and that retains some or all of their power/influence from one admin to the next. That includes for example powerful figures in the Pentagon or intelligence agencies that remain from one admin to the next. These people all have agendas of their own, and they network as people do. D…

There is this building where guys wearing masks wheel you into a room behind locked doors at dawn and then use drugs to knock you out. They then take sharp knives and cut you open and rummage around your insides, sometimes taking organs out. Blood goes everywhere. The footage is gory. When they're done with you it may takes you weeks to recover. The rest of just call his "surgery at a hospital". My point is that you'…

Yeah man, Allen Dulles was just a humble civil servant.

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by pandaman »

donkeybeer wrote: post #99
pandaman wrote: post #75

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Then back to the system defined in the Constitution, it gives enough guidance. If you think the President is not enough for the Executive - amend the Constitution, used to be enough for ~200 years though.

Why didn't you comment on the other agencies mentioned? A simple yes or no would be enough.

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Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by guzfip »

sampullman wrote: post #96
raven12345 wrote: post #80

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Seriously，Taiwan have to consider

It's not possible in Taiwan's current political/social climate. I'm not so confident to say 50 years, but 20+ feels conservative.

You say this, but I’ve watched American political culture across the spectrum evolve a ton within that time in ways I’d never thought I’d see.

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by pandaman »

guelo wrote: post #94
pandaman wrote: post #81

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The Constitution defines just three branches of power, if the "civil service system" has a power and is not one of the branches then it unconstitutional by common sense and elementary logic. And this "civil servant system" evidentially has power and is not a part of either of the three branches (which are all enumerated in the Constitution) ergo it's an unconstitutional junta. >We are not going to either amend the Co…

The constitution says the president must "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed". That means hiring people to enforce the laws, that's the civil servant system.

That means the whole Executive branch is the president and if he can delegate his power to some other people he also should be able to revoke the delegation and fire those people, which is not the case now. The president is semi-successful in firing these "servants" and some judges insist that it's illegal.

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by donkeybeer »

pandaman wrote: post #103
donkeybeer wrote: post #99

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Why didn't you comment on the other agencies mentioned? A simple yes or no would be enough.

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How is it stupid? If I truly believed in such constitutional purity I would have no problems saying a simple yes or no to it. For example sometimes I am accused of hating a particular religion, I gladly say I am not a fan of any religion and name a few to make it clear.

Again, its a simple question. Just answer yes or no. Do you or do you not believe in the dissolution of those agencies per your interpretation of the constitution?

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by c420 »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #74
throw0101c wrote: post #70

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> Can't read the Atlantic any more since it became private It has always been in private ownership, never having been owned by a publicly traded company: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlantic#Ownership_and_edi... Currently majority ownership is with Laurene Powell Jobs (widow of Steve Jobs).

Good information, but this is a time I don't mean stock ownership. More like "members only" for the website where they don't accept "strangers" like they used to do :(

https://pressreleased.alwaysdata.net/

Add-on free bypass

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by pandaman »

donkeybeer wrote: post #106
pandaman wrote: post #103

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How is it stupid? If I truly believed in such constitutional purity I would have no problems saying a simple yes or no to it. For example sometimes I am accused of hating a particular religion, I gladly say I am not a fan of any religion and name a few to make it clear. Again, its a simple question. Just answer yes or no. Do you or do you not believe in the dissolution of those agencies per your interpretation of the…

There are many things that are not in the Constitution: the USAF, computers, antibiotics, sea cruises, cars, steak, etc. Not being in the Constitution does not make them unconstitutional. Hope this helps.

As for dissolution of those agencies, my answer is: no. You have to ask a question before demanding an answer.

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by WarmWash »

quasse wrote: post #84
WarmWash wrote: post #10

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China's biggest hurdle that they cannot manufacture is experience. They have virtually zero. How much of China's military command is a crony boys club full of people who never had to militarily prove anything? Just "win" at their own made up war games?

> How much of China's military command is a crony boys club full of people who never had to militarily prove anything? Have you even glanced at the current leadership of the US military?

Leadership is different than the men on the ground.

Re: America Is Now a Rogue Superpower

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Post by donkeybeer »

pandaman wrote: post #108
donkeybeer wrote: post #106

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How is it stupid? If I truly believed in such constitutional purity I would have no problems saying a simple yes or no to it. For example sometimes I am accused of hating a particular religion, I gladly say I am not a fan of any religion and name a few to make it clear. Again, its a simple question. Just answer yes or no. Do you or do you not believe in the dissolution of those agencies per your interpretation of the…

There are many things that are not in the Constitution: the USAF, computers, antibiotics, sea cruises, cars, steak, etc. Not being in the Constitution does not make them unconstitutional. Hope this helps. As for dissolution of those agencies, my answer is: no. You have to ask a question before demanding an answer.

Why not? You literally said "We don't have either in the Constitution so whatever you call it, it has to be removed from power.". What's different about ICE and DHS but not about governments having civil services? Or the other things you listed?
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