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Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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> Localization files for every language on Earth - [...] - Samsung really wanted to make sure everyone on the planet could experience this suffering equally Why are you considering localization as bloat? I bet your reaction wouldn't be positive if your native language(s) were missing instead.

Zero percent of users require 100 percent of languages at all times.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac. Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable. System utilities and drivers a…

>When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. And the companies that make such products _never_ care about making sure an uninstallation is actually clean.

Almost never, indeed, so you need some 3rd party trash utilities with databases and heuristics. Though that's also on the gardener and his bad OS design where forced compartmentalization is's trivial, the weeds will never want to root themselves out!

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#103

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac. Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable. System utilities and drivers a…

> When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag.

The applications you drag to the Apps folder can do the same things when you run them the first time.

Being able to drag into the Apps folder doesn’t mean it won’t do things outside of that folder.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#104
Absolutely agree I hate that software. Last I remember I was trying to upgrade firmware I think of either a usbc drive, but could have been some m2 nvme drive via usb4. Software looked so nasty that I think I managed to get it somehow working in a VM for firmware update.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#105

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac. Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable. System utilities and drivers a…

> When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag

But a lot of Apple first-party applications require installation. Packages for me and not for thee.

As do Chrome/Edge/Teams/Etc

It's 2026 and Apple still doesn't have an equivalent to MSI + the Add/Remove Programs control panel Windows has had for 30+ years.

Windows always saves a copy of the uninstaller package stub so if you trash the media you can always nope out (usually—unless the developer went out of his way to break it).

And no, the App Store is not a fix-all for this.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#106
post #79

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

> I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete / I don't remember this ever being the case, even in times of DOS.

I remember software, tools and some games shipping like this forever, typically they have a "portable" label slapped on them, bet you can find Windows software/games still shipped like this today, if you look for "-portable" or "-archive" rather than "installer".

One quick example, offers an installer or a ZIP archive, the "installation process" for the ZIP archive is basically "copy files out from archive && ./executable", installer does a bunch of other stuff: https://www.openttd.org/downloads/openttd-releases/latest

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#107

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

hey, thanks for partitionmagic, it was amazing.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#108

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

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Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#109

I feel like the complaints here are…not really Samsung's fault? > So I’ve dug around and found a cleanup script buried six folders deep inside the app bundle. Let’s try to run it: > sh ~/Library/'Application Support'/Samsung/'Samsung Magician'/SamsungMagician.app/Contents/Resources/CleanupMagician_Admin_Mac.sh > It ran. And my kitty exploded. Sweet kitty overflowed. Hundreds - literally hundreds - of lines of chown:…

Also it doesn't take 18 steps to uninstall. The steps provided are the steps he took stumbling around trying to remove every trace of it, but it is in no way the optimal method.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

#110
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (On a side note its been yeara since floppy drives were the A: drive... and yet we are still stuck with the primary disc being called C:) The logic behind that is pretty obvious isn't it?

Unless you mean retrocompatibility, no it's not that obvious to me.

I think it's clearly back compatability.
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