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Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by somenameforme »

jebarker wrote: post #96
zulux wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sort of confirm: I'm older, and my mind is fine, I just don't care as much anymore. I'm comfortably numb as the song goes.

What do you think caused you to stop caring as much? I’ve been becoming more aware of my finitude recently for a variety of reasons relating to middle-age and having kids. A side effect of that is definitely caring less about lots of things in order to focus on others. But I have an internal battle going on with the part of me that says I should still be ambitious and make a dent in the world.

For me at least you hit exactly on it - shifting priorities. I never imagined how quickly life flies by, and it only seems to move even faster as we grow more grey, so my interest has become more on my children and basically turning them into 'little mes', but ideally even better. Then they can have their go at the same game with some better guidance.

Everything we personally do will mostly be forgotten in short order in basically all cases. Even the exceptions do little more than stretch out the timeline by a bit. Jeff Bezos of tomorrow will be the John Astor of today; many, if not most, young developers have never even heard of John Carmack. The only real legacy we can ever truly have is our children, because they will be the humanity of tomorrow.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by somenameforme »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #89
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% true about chess but I think there's more nuance to it. In 6th grade, I had gone to a chess coach who were a friend of my father (technically my father knew his father very well). It was my birthday/a day close to it IIRC and I wanted to learn chess. He was an international-master (or close to it) /National-master (I think he just had one norm less) and he told me about his story and everything, but he said that…

Magnus Carlsen is still absolutely destroying anyone else in his 30s. By far. He didn't compete for the world champion becaue he didn't want to put in the effort for the preparation (again). Also it would have been boring if he played it because he would have won again. He intentionally starts with subobtimal openings at major turnaments because of boredom and still wins.

Magnus played 5 world chess championships. 2 games he played against the previous generation of players who were already well on their way out, and did phenomenally well. 1 game he played against Nepo in a completely even match until Nepo lost one game and went on his somewhat infamous monkey tilt. The other 2 games were against players of his generation. In the 24 games of those matches he ended up with a score of +1 =22 -1. And he was never the one pressing in the classical matches.

Carlsen's paradoxical because he's undoubtedly the strongest player in contemporary times, if not in the entire history of chess, but his world championship matches have never been particularly impressive. And he thinks that his ability peaked sometime shortly before his match with Nepo. So he probably thinks there's a fairly good chance of him losing if he played another world championship match.

On top of these observations, the one player he was willing to play a world championship match against was Alireza Firouzja. Alireza has an extremely poor record against Magnus, especially in slower time controls, had no experience in the pressures of a world championship match, and Magnus would have been an absurdly huge favorite against him.

In other words, he's not playing a world championship matches because there's a reasonably good chance he spends months of work and effort preparing for it, only to ultimately lose and put that mark on his legacy. Right now it's still perfectly reasonable to call him the GOAT, but if he lost to somebody in a WCC match, that'd now always come with an asterisk.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by xorcist »

dyauspitr wrote: post #70
Retric wrote: post #69

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What’s the point of getting the wrong answer quickly? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47587662

Well, we’re just going in circles now. I just said LLMs cite what they find so it’s not going to be the wrong answer if you do your due diligence.

Isn't verifying sources a much harder problem than just searching the list of works in the first place?

Especially in cases such as this. For well known works of literature and music structured data exists already.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by mellosouls »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #89
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% true about chess but I think there's more nuance to it. In 6th grade, I had gone to a chess coach who were a friend of my father (technically my father knew his father very well). It was my birthday/a day close to it IIRC and I wanted to learn chess. He was an international-master (or close to it) /National-master (I think he just had one norm less) and he told me about his story and everything, but he said that…

Magnus Carlsen is still absolutely destroying anyone else in his 30s. By far. He didn't compete for the world champion becaue he didn't want to put in the effort for the preparation (again). Also it would have been boring if he played it because he would have won again. He intentionally starts with subobtimal openings at major turnaments because of boredom and still wins.

True, though he was at his peak in his 20s.

"My favorite player from the past is probably myself, 3-4 years ago.", Magnus Carlsen, 2018.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

#105

Post by zulux »

jebarker wrote: post #96
zulux wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sort of confirm: I'm older, and my mind is fine, I just don't care as much anymore. I'm comfortably numb as the song goes.

What do you think caused you to stop caring as much? I’ve been becoming more aware of my finitude recently for a variety of reasons relating to middle-age and having kids. A side effect of that is definitely caring less about lots of things in order to focus on others. But I have an internal battle going on with the part of me that says I should still be ambitious and make a dent in the world.

I can't pinpoint it, but I'm increasingly aware that I only have limited time and I'm starting to think that sitting by a stream watching the birds is more important than working to make my company 2% bigger.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by lelanthran »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #93
randomNumber7 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Magnus Carlsen is still absolutely destroying anyone else in his 30s. By far. He didn't compete for the world champion becaue he didn't want to put in the effort for the preparation (again). Also it would have been boring if he played it because he would have won again. He intentionally starts with subobtimal openings at major turnaments because of boredom and still wins.

Yes, magnus carlsen is a legendary player/the best player right now, there isn't much denying about it. Regarding boredom, I think that either it was magnus or hikaru who are/were really optimistic about chess960 (randomized chess essentially) because they have less value to openings and more values to the more live-ness of the situation so it has some exciting element to it. At a certain point for magnus, there real…

I sent you a challenge just now :-)
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