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Re: Apple Business

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Post by selectively »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #58
martibravo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of new businesses are going the Notion/Google Drive route for docs, tables and knowledge, plus Canva for presentations and more visual work. It's not the majority, but the market is there.

That might be true for tech startups, but many businesses (even "new" ones) go with Microsoft 365 as a default, especially outside of the west coast or NYC.

Exactly. 365 gets you perfect compatibility and the 'real tools that professionals use'. Not Google Docs or some weird Apple thing - the tools that always will read the document.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by moduspol »

monegator wrote: post #29

Will we be able to change our company details? A couple of years ago we changed the business name, so let's change it in the account for billing and such. Not possible. Ok, let's ask support what to do: the only thing we can do is create a new account, get the approval, etc. and then ask for a migration that may or may not be approved and may or may not end succesfully. In the end we keep receiving the bills in the o…

I'm called by a name that is not the same as my legal name. I somehow got an Apple Developer account during the first few years of it with my preferred name, but it had my parents' house as the mailing address.

I was essentially told that I could update the mailing address but going through the steps for that process would result in the name on my account being changed to the legal name. And so today, it still has my parents' mailing address. Thankfully they haven't moved.

Re: Apple Business

#104

Post by rjrjrjrj »

jwlake wrote: post #55

A non-terrible MDM that actually works would be really nice. The rest I doubt they get much traction on. Gmail is too easy, Google docs and sheets if you don't need Microsoft is also way better than Apple's free apps.

Is it possible to make a non-terrible MDM?

Not a particular area of expertise for me, but the times I've had to deal with it just seemed like an inherently complex and messy problem.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by codeulike »

selectively wrote: post #22
martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

Microsoft is a giant enterprise software company that also publishes Candy Crush and Call of Duty. Intune and Windows are 'nice to have' but are not the business-business. The business is 365 (which runs on Macs and is worlds better than Apple's office suite + Apple's hosted email is god awful) and Azure.

Exactly. So many people on hn have no idea how diversified Microsoft is, and have no inkling of what the enterprise market is like

Re: Apple Business

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Post by selectively »

genthree wrote: post #72
selectively wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is a giant enterprise software company that also publishes Candy Crush and Call of Duty. Intune and Windows are 'nice to have' but are not the business-business. The business is 365 (which runs on Macs and is worlds better than Apple's office suite + Apple's hosted email is god awful) and Azure.

Apple's office suite is my favorite I've ever used, and it's not close. After that, old copies of MSOffice. Next-best would be a hodgepodge of the lighter options on Linux and such. Gnumeric, Abiword, that sort of thing. Not great, but at least they're light on resources and easy to use. Distantly after that, LibreOffice. Then, modern MSOffice in last place. The only reason I'd count any of them as "worse" than moder…

I liked the way Pages 09 looked - it was beautiful - but the compatibility wasn't there. Modern Pages is hideous.

And you hit the nail on the head with the whole 'Office = the document always opens/looks right' thing.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by [deleted] »

martibravo wrote: post #30
selectively wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is a giant enterprise software company that also publishes Candy Crush and Call of Duty. Intune and Windows are 'nice to have' but are not the business-business. The business is 365 (which runs on Macs and is worlds better than Apple's office suite + Apple's hosted email is god awful) and Azure.

A lot of new businesses are going the Notion/Google Drive route for docs, tables and knowledge, plus Canva for presentations and more visual work. It's not the majority, but the market is there.

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Re: Apple Business

#108

Post by nolok »

bombcar wrote: post #94
martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

$599 per device? Redmond will make more profit the first year selling a 365 subscription than Apple does on the Neo. The real competition is going to come from companies using the $599 Neo + Google Workgroups or whatever they're calling it - now Microsoft is cut out entirely.

> The real competition is going to come from companies using the $599 Neo + Google Workgroups or whatever they're calling it - now Microsoft is cut out entirely.

The companies doing that are cut in two groups. The one that don't fully plan it and they need to do with complex excel or whatever files here and there and they're still in microsoft's grasp, or those that fully do and move to disposable chromebook.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by ark4n »

Feels like yet another distraction. I personally believe Apple would benefit from a renewed focus. Product lines are growing, software too, software qualify is not doing well... this is the same pattern that got Apple into a mess before Jobs returned. Sure, things are not exactly the same but it feels like time is echoing here.

I am sure "BUT BUSINESS AND MONEY" is the answer but that feels like a cop out in this case.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by rconti »

martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

They need to _commit_ to this, and execute, though. This feels very much like yet another half-hearted Apple initiative.
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