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American aviation is near collapse?
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're making a claim about it - twice now - that you haven't actually yet justified by any data. I'm suggesting there are, in fact, alternate explanations.
Well no, you're the one who makes unfounded claims. Show how DEI makes things better, please. Don't start redefining the term, just show how selecting people based on inalienable characteristics instead of competence improves the outcome.
you need to show how excluding people on the basis of skin colour makes things better.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
This assumes that controllers over 56 years old are statistically "unsafe," presumably due to perceived cognitive speed and ability. So unsafe that the concern overrides experience, familiarity with systems, and other key benefits of tenure. I'd love to see that data.
An elderly woman ran into a bus stop at 70mph, killing 4 people. Their claim was “I couldn’t stop, I don’t know what happened” They were given 200 hours community service. I think this happened today.
Why you got to pick an asian woman as your example though?
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
The FAA never had any such policies as far as I can tell.
This will get downvoted from the mindless reactionaries here but here’s the link to the practice. https://nypost.com/2025/02/10/us-news/air-traffic-controller...
This is just some claim by a person. I appreciate the context but as far as I can tell no such policy was on the books. The person making the claim has a clear motivated reason for claiming such and its all pretty vague.
Re: American aviation is near collapse?
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well no, you're the one who makes unfounded claims. Show how DEI makes things better, please. Don't start redefining the term, just show how selecting people based on inalienable characteristics instead of competence improves the outcome.
you need to show how excluding people on the basis of skin colour makes things better.
Who is talking about skin colour here? I haven't mentioned this term a single time, instead I purposefully use the term inalienable characteristics because that covers more than just skin tone.
You're the one talking about excluding people based on skin colour, not me. That is after all what DEI ends up being: exclude those who are considered to be non-marginalised (in practice white and east-Asian, heterosexual, men) from the pool. Getting rid of DEI removes the inalienable characteristics filter so that everybody is allowed in again to compete on merit. Having a given skin tone is not a badge of merit, having achieved a given level of competence is.
Do you realise that you are the one who is turning this into a question of race and that you are the one who is willing to exclude people based on it? Read that Sowell quote again and realise you're the one he's talking about, whether you're a politico or not.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
An elderly woman ran into a bus stop at 70mph, killing 4 people. Their claim was “I couldn’t stop, I don’t know what happened” They were given 200 hours community service. I think this happened today.
Why you got to pick an asian woman as your example though?
I was trying to show that elderly people probably shouldn't be air traffic controllers by providing an extremely recent example of an elderly person ending the lives of an entire family using a car. I didn't mention that the driver was asian. You did. :)
Re: American aviation is near collapse?
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
This will get downvoted from the mindless reactionaries here but here’s the link to the practice. https://nypost.com/2025/02/10/us-news/air-traffic-controller...
This is just some claim by a person. I appreciate the context but as far as I can tell no such policy was on the books. The person making the claim has a clear motivated reason for claiming such and its all pretty vague.
It's okay, one claim is all that's needed for this adminstration and the current overton window in the US. The eternal leader himself changes his tune from sentence to sentence - the US has already won, the US needs help, the US was just testing the US has agreed to a ceasefire after discussions with Iran, even when Iran wasn't actually there.
What matters is that the claim was made, and now you have to pretend it is true.
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#109I am amazed every day that people are expected to turn up every day to work while being unpaid. In westminster-style parlimentary systems, if a government can't guarantee supply[1], they are sacked, and a snap election is called. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_and_supply The paralysis of the political system in the US is either a feature or a bug depending on your point of view i suppose, but no quest…
This is how Canada works (Westminster style). When a govt tables a budget it goes to a vote, and if they can’t get the votes to pass it it triggers a no-confidence vote in the govt and away we go to an election.
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#110I'm not saying the article's thesis is wrong, much of it rings true to me, but we have very comprehensive data and statistics concerning air travel so I'm deeply unimpressed by this article instead hanging its argument on a hodgepodge list of incidents instead of digging into the data to get some proper numbers.
Well, a tired, overextended air traffic controller at LaGuardia just caused two pilots to die last night while landing. How many deaths would communicate "We have likely reached system failure"? I presume for some, it's going to have to be a few airframes worth of passengers unfortunately. There is a shortage of air traffic controllers. Those working are being pushed to failure. The system as a whole is degrading. Th…
Additional citation:
LaGuardia pilots raised safety alarms months before deadly runway crash - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47503965 - March 2026