I don't know who even routes to archive.* anymore. NextDNS doesn't route to .is or .ph or .fo or .today anymore. My ISP doesn't route to .is, but it routes to the others. Using my ISP's DNS means receiving tons of spam though. Cloudflare apparently doesn't reliably route to them either, and I wouldn't want to use it even if it did. UPDATE: I see that https://dns.adguard-dns.com/dns-query still routes to all of them,…
Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'
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Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tell me a sad story in three words: We Use Jira.
After suffering Jira at two previous employers when it was being considered at the third org, I lobbied, pretty much begged, and cried along with many other colleagues who had this inflicted upon them previously. Yes, we indeed ended up with Jira and one another Atlassian monstrosity.
Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'
#103I don't know who even routes to archive.* anymore. NextDNS doesn't route to .is or .ph or .fo or .today anymore. My ISP doesn't route to .is, but it routes to the others. Using my ISP's DNS means receiving tons of spam though. Cloudflare apparently doesn't reliably route to them either, and I wouldn't want to use it even if it did. UPDATE: I see that https://dns.adguard-dns.com/dns-query still routes to all of them,…
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been that 20-something myself. I was working as a programmer at some high flying merchant bank in London in the 90's and at the pub with my workmates one night I started tearing strips off of the IT director because he was comically incompetent. Everyone was kicking me under the table because unbeknownst to me his close friend was at the table taking in my rant. Everyone agreed that I was toast and bought me dri…
Was his close friend the MD or something? I’m curious how this wound up playing out exactly backward from how everyone expected it would.
Another memory from that time: a stressed sounding trading desk assistant rang me asking after a trade confirmation that went missing and the client was demanding. I determined that the system I worked on didn't handle those kinds of trades. Out of curiosity I looked up the trade. It was for 2 billion GBP of UK Gilts (government bonds), thats about $5 billion USD in today's money.
Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'
#105Is it really surprising she was fired? It's completely okay to say whatever you want and stand up for yourself, but you are not a child, own the consequences rather than whine
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#106I don't know who even routes to archive.* anymore. NextDNS doesn't route to .is or .ph or .fo or .today anymore. My ISP doesn't route to .is, but it routes to the others. Using my ISP's DNS means receiving tons of spam though. Cloudflare apparently doesn't reliably route to them either, and I wouldn't want to use it even if it did. UPDATE: I see that https://dns.adguard-dns.com/dns-query still routes to all of them,…
Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'
#107Proving her point.
But if they say so themselves!
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
The NLRB alleges that “the consequences” she faced are illegal under Federal law.
I saw GP as an argument that they shouldn't be illegal.
You have a choice not to use said tact, but this entire "employee goes on moral crusade, gets fired, goes on moral crusade about firing", is a feature of a kind of employee that is even for other employees not amazing to be around
Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'
#109Is he too rich for some people’s taste? Does that indicate workers are unhappy with the real/perceived pay disparity?
Is he a jerk in other contexts? Is this proxy for unapproachable, rude, or some other unbecoming set of behaviors?
It’s an opportunity to improve, or at least reflect on the perception they have in the company. Firing, and asserting the right to do so for expressing an opinion, seems to me to be a poor choice of action.
Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'
#110I think the cult of personality always backfires, pun intended. Our company biggest product was a celebrity making fun commercials for the actual product. Works wonders. Personally I don't have a problem with him, I enjoyed his movies in the past. But not everybody does. Internally, the company tried to push this cult so deeply that it was part of the hiring process, part of the onboarding, even obscured some of the…
This isn't maturity, this is selfishness. A group often benefits from someone challenging the status quo, but the individual doing that gets punished. In your view, Germans during WW2 were "mature" by not saying anything that wasn't nice about nazism, and nowadays Russians are "mature" when they don't want to discuss a war that left a million people either dead or wounded - both cases are individuals acting out of self-preservation, not "maturity".
If you're American, then maybe a good example is Martin Luther King Jr. - do you really think that he should've had the maturity to shut up and not say anything that wasn't nice about racism? Well, he got killed, just like your junior employee got fired, so I guess he was indeed a loser in a sense.
In general this is a very common pattern in corporations where everyone is "just doing their job" and "being mature" but the end result is atrocities - for example Nestle literally killing babies.