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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#102

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That's rich, the guy threatening the existence of NATO more than any other factor is trying to bolster NATO. I struggle to imagine how you square this in your mind.

At the outset, he doesn't want to carry the burden of NATO alone. Maybe he has other strategic interests in mind where US deviates from the rest of the world (like Greenland) but he's entirely right that NATO really depends on the US. Trump's attitude towards NATO member state spend it widely publicized [0] so I don't think there's much to debate here. Trump wanted member states to spend more, not less. He was somewh…

> NATO really depends on the US.

Yes. By design. But if the US decouples, the rest of the countries can and will make their own alliance, with blackjack and hookers. Greenland thing is peak wierdness and the only explanation of it would be pride, stupidity or active undermining of NATO.

> Trump's attitude towards NATO member state spend it widely publicized [0] so I don't think there's much to debate here. Trump wanted member states to spend more, not less.

Yes. But, you have a very shallow reading of this and you're taking things at face value. He latched on the spending as a pretext, and as a way to increase US income for the defense industry. He doesn't give a rat's ass about the security of NATO countries. US has entered a very transactional, bully, phase and this is a bad way to maintain international standing.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#103
post #6

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You can see for yourself if anything is passing: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:57.7/cente...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4geg0eeyjeo > Before the war, about 138 ships passed through the strait each day according to the Joint Maritime Information Centre, carrying one fifth of the global oil supply. > The data provided by shipping analysts Kpler shows 99 vessels passing the narrow strait so far this month, an average of just 5-6 vessels a day. I mean, it's bad, but it's factually not a minefield. The th…

> I mean, it's bad, but it's factually not a minefield.

That's not clear. Mines are generally concealed. It's the reason that mine-sweeping is slow and dangerous.

And there's no public information (AFAIK) that let's us rule out mines having been, or even currently being, laid.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#104
post #48

Ok, I did win. Do I get cheaper gasoline now?

That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

-Sent from Tel Aviv.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#105
post #61

here is my version with algo generated levels and you have to navigate a ship from left to right https://strait-sweeper.franzai.com/

On Chrome, right-click brings up the context menu in addition to flagging a mine, which basically makes this unplayable.

Also the ship is not explained at all (the graphics, the controls, the systems). I'd recommend at least a one paragraph help section in the menu.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#106

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Anything other than lily white is brown, don't you know? More so if they're sitting on top of a bunch of oil, or have the wrong religion, or just happen to be born in the wrong spot. Racism isn't necessarily perfectly confined to color, it's just a convenient shorthand so people can do what they want to do anyway.

I get that trope, but as someone who is not lily white, but know people who are and are tortured all their life by what can only describe as psychologically abuse that has been perpetrated against them for…you guessed it…their skin color, while being the most generous, nice, friendly people I know; I will say that racism is vile and sadistic even when the “brown people” feel morally superior and abuse “white people”…

Absolutely. It's one of the most puzzling things to me, and I've seen that first hand many times over. Native Americans abusing African Americans, to give you one weird example.

I figure that if you are racist enough you're welcome to the Klan, no matter what your actual skin color.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#107
post #88

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What part of "doing the right thing" is bombing an all girls school?

Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Or are you trying to pollute a grown up conversation with sensationalism and punchy hooks? In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives.

> In reality someone made a mistake.

It's never just one mistake. It's usually a chain of mistakes and bad decisions that make the final mistake possible.

I'd estimate that there were likely 77,168,458 mistakes/bad decisions made by individuals before this mistake could happen.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#108
post #48

Ok, I did win. Do I get cheaper gasoline now?

That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

Oy, vey! You mean Epstein first policy instead of America first?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's rich, the guy threatening the existence of NATO more than any other factor is trying to bolster NATO. I struggle to imagine how you square this in your mind.

At the outset, he doesn't want to carry the burden of NATO alone. Maybe he has other strategic interests in mind where US deviates from the rest of the world (like Greenland) but he's entirely right that NATO really depends on the US. Trump's attitude towards NATO member state spend it widely publicized [0] so I don't think there's much to debate here. Trump wanted member states to spend more, not less. He was somewh…

> it forced US to spend huge amounts of money and military hardware which the EU simply didn't have

- Europe's monetary aid for Ukraine far outweighs that of the US.

- The US military aid for Ukraine mostly consisted of old and obsolete hardware.

- Since about a year or so, all weapons and munitions delivered by the US are paid for by Europe.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#110

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This was my first thought too."Trump bad" is fine on HN. I've seen it multiple times. The zig guy wrote anti ICE propaganda in the zig docs and everyone here lapped it up and upvoted it. Any pro ICE discussion on HN was literally flagged and removed.
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