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Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by ekianjo »

pydry wrote: post #96
Springtime wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt Mullvad would be doing this if they weren't getting compensated given they've always said (even right now[1]) they don't offer a free tier since they don't believe it makes sense. The other aspect is I expect it would stain the IP pool further. VPN IPs often end up on various blacklists due to abuse and introducing a wave of free users would only make it worse for paying customers. [1] https://mullvad.net/en/…

It's already pretty bad for mullvad. 3/4 of the websites I visit do bot checks it used to just be a few.

That's true. Definitely getting worse.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by Nathanba »

userbinator wrote: post #3

As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"

I'd love to have a free VPN directly integrated into the browser, it's not a distraction. It's a developer tool for website developers.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by fivetomidnight »

Angostura wrote: post #93
chii wrote: post #18

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of course it does. Why do you think google buys the rights to firefox's search bar (as a default setting)?

And by extension, all users of FOSS must be the product, right?

I see it more like a question than a rule.

"The service is free. Am I the product?"

That is a valid thing to ask. Even with FOSS sometimes.

Some FOSS projects are backed by companies, then yes, plausible to ask.

Otherwise, I would answer with a clear no.

(Projects can still collect telemetry and other data and sell that, though the sell part should be very rare, imo...)

Edit: Was that a bad faith argument or a honest question?

Sometimes I can't tell, maybe because of old or ESL...

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by chii »

Angostura wrote: post #93
chii wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

of course it does. Why do you think google buys the rights to firefox's search bar (as a default setting)?

And by extension, all users of FOSS must be the product, right?

> all users of FOSS must be the product, right?

i would default to this being the truth, until demonstrated otherwise. Call it cynical, but it's the cynical that survive.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by snarf_br »

Nathanba wrote: post #102
userbinator wrote: post #3

As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"

I'd love to have a free VPN directly integrated into the browser, it's not a distraction. It's a developer tool for website developers.

It's a distraction.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by philipallstar »

kotaKat wrote: post #100
philipallstar wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a VPN be a good browser extension?

Why does the VPN need to be integrated into the browser itself?

I don't think it should. You think it should be a browser extension. I don't think it should either be integrated or a browser extension.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by isodev »

gzread wrote: post #75
isodev wrote: post #21

You know what would be actually cool and a transformative improvement? Mozilla to make an iOS port of Firefox and publish it in regions where Apple has been forced to allow it.

Apple doesn't allow alternative browsers in those regions, it just does enough to convince the regulatory body that it allows them and the other browsers just don't want to for some reason .

Apple created a lot of bureaucracy around the development process [1] but it's possible. If Mozilla is truly fighting for "a better internet"

[1] https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi...

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by Poudlardo »

userbinator wrote: post #3

As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"

Could be useful to quick check simple things such i18n or default behavior of a website. But for actual use, I will wait for the technical "trade-offs" as mentioned in the article.
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