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Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Like any other Apple Silicon Mac, you can't currently boot into Linux but Apple has native container support that Linux works on [1]. [1]: https://github.com/apple/container

I'm writing this from Linux running natively (not virtualized) on an Apple Silicon mac (M1 Pro)

I'm aware of that option, but that's not something the average user is going to do. But knock yourself out if you want to try it.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Funnily it probably runs Windows better than the typical corporate spyware burdened x86 laptop.

My corporate spyware laden Surface ARM runs Windows faster than the Macbook Neo, but unlike the Neo can survive a fall onto a concrete floor. (Ask how I know...) My home laptop is even faster.

How do you know a Neo cannot survive a fall onto a concrete floor? I think it would take at least ten tests each with a new machine to get some confidence of the impossibility of that.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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post #94

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I'm writing this from Linux running natively (not virtualized) on an Apple Silicon mac (M1 Pro)

I'm aware of that option, but that's not something the average user is going to do. But knock yourself out if you want to try it.

If you were aware then why did you tell me I can't???

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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I’m excited that Apple now has a reason to keep MacOS small. Their soon to be top-selling machine has 8GB and they won’t want to make all those millions of Neos unusable by shipping a bloated OS.

I wrote about how Unified Memory, SSD directly attached to the SoC and Apple's use of real-time compression saves memory, reduces power consumption and wear on SSDs [1].

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47354705

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Hysteria would be if all had an issue like the keyboard gate, but this isn't an issue, it's a design limitation for certain uses cases which not everyone has. Some users will wear out faster than others due to usage patterns. If their M1 dies after 6 years of heavy usage, do you think they'll investigate if it was the NAND that died and go online to tell the news, or will they chuck it and buy new one? NAND is still…

The reality is most 8GB M1 Macs are still working just fine 6 years later. Power users know they need more than 8GB of RAM and will buy a MacBook Air or Pro with 16GB+. The MacBook neo is for students, grandparents, travel, etc. Hell, even if it dies after 6 years it was still a better experience than using a $500-600 windows PC and the cost comes out to ~$8/month spread over 6 years.

>The reality is most 8GB M1 Macs are still working just fine 6 years later.

Do you think SSD drives are replaceable for no reason? Just because M1 mac aren't failing left and right doesn't mean their NAND won't fail.

Even though I like the NEO, I can't in good faith buy a machine with soldered wearable parts. That's like buying a car with soldered brake pads because "in 6 years average users don't feel like they need changing".

I still had laptops on my hands from 20 years ago that work fine simply because you can swap their drives with fresh ones. How many M1 mac will still be functional in 20 years?

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Man, I do wonder what the realistic lifespan of that single NAND chip will be after it gets hammered by constant swapping of running tasks way beyond the capabilities of a 8GB RAM machine. I have a PC with a 10+ year old 256GB SATA Samsung SSD that's still in top shape, but that's different because that drive has those 256GB split over several NAND chips inside, so wear is spread out and shuffled around by the contro…

The M2 MacBook Air base model has 8GB RAM and a single 256GB NAND chip. Nearly 4 years later, it doesn't seem to have caused any problems.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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No this is not just an enterprise issue. I waited 10 seconds (I counted.) for a Windows Explorer context menu to open the other day. This is on a fully decked out system with an Ultra 9 cpu and a 4090 and 32gb of memory, and basically no apps running. I think I had 2 tabs in Edge? Windows is a shitshow these days.

I just tried to open the context menu in Windows Explorer. It showed up almost as soon as I released the mouse button, and I have a much slower CPU, older video card, and way less RAM then you do. I was also running 12 windows of Firefox with collectively 1000+ tabs (though only about 36 or loaded), Steam, a Unity game, and Microsoft Teams, plus a number of background programs. If your Explorer context menu is taking…

Other than hardware it could also be some third-party software hooking into Explorer to do who knows what.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Every thread about Windows on Hacker News includes claims about apps taking 30 seconds to launch, web pages taking 20 seconds to load, simple applications being unusable, and other extreme performance problems. These are puzzling for anyone (like me) who uses Windows at home without all of these extreme performance problems. That was until I realized how many reports are coming from people talking about their work la…

I once worked on a computer for the US Government that felt slow. I counted nine (9) directly competitive and redundant endpoint protection products on it. Not nine different/only somewhat overlapping pieces of software from companies that were competitors. Nine equivalent products . I guess defender made ten.

Can you elaborate?
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