Theres this unstated assumption that higher levels are better that hasn't been proven empirically yet
Levels of Agentic Engineering
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Producing the software is only a small part of the picture when it comes to generating revenue. So far, we haven’t seen much to suggest that LLMs can (yet) replace sales and most of the related functions.
Was listening to a radio programme recently with 3 entrepreneurs talking about being entrepreneurs. In relation to sales, there were two gems. For direct to consumer type companies - influencers are where it's at right now especially during bootstrap phase - and they were talking about trying to keep marketing budget under 20% of sales. Another, who is mostly in the VC business, finds the best way to gain traction fo…
Yeah I really would like to know how many bots are on reddit (and on particular subreddits/threads) and also how many are here!
The interesting thing though is that the bots are just cheaper versions of real human influencers. So nothing has changed aside from scale (and speed) - the underlying mechanisms of paying for word of mouth is the same as it's been for a long time.
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#104As a Level 6, I am feeling like to go back to Level 5. Level 6 helps with fixing bugs, but adding a new feature in a scalable way is not working out for me, I feed bunch of documents and ask it to analyze and come up with a solution. 1. It misses some details from docs when summarizing 2. It misses some details from code and its architecture, especially in multi-repo Java projects (annotations, 100 level inheritance…
Which model(s) are you using?
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#106I prefer Dan Shapiro's 5 level analogy (based on car autonomy levels) because it makes for a cleaner maturity model when discussing with people who are not as deeply immersed in the current state of the art. But there are some good overall insights in this piece, and there are enough breadcrumbs to lead to further exploration, which I appreciate. I think levels 3 and 4 should be collapsed, and the real magic starts t…
Agreed; here's the link for anyone looking for it:
https://www.danshapiro.com/blog/2026/01/the-five-levels-from...
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#107What level is copy pasting snippets into the chatgpt window? Grug brained level 0? I sort of prefer it that way (using it as an amped up stackoverflow) since it forces me to decompose things in terms of natural boundaries (manual context management as it were) and allows me to think in terms of "what properties do I need this function to have" rather than just letting copilot take the wheel and glob the entire projec…
anything, if it brings the results
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#108What level is copy pasting snippets into the chatgpt window? Grug brained level 0? I sort of prefer it that way (using it as an amped up stackoverflow) since it forces me to decompose things in terms of natural boundaries (manual context management as it were) and allows me to think in terms of "what properties do I need this function to have" rather than just letting copilot take the wheel and glob the entire projec…
I still do this too for tough projects in languages I know. Too many times getting burned thinking 'wow it one shot that!' only to end up debugging later.
I let agents run wild on frontend JS because I don't know it well and trust them (and an output I can look at).
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Yes, the more you delegate, the more you need to define the ultimate business outcomes you want, your taste, your brand and your technology preferences.
This is why building a "dark factory" is hard; at a certain point, you need to either externalize all that information into a "digital twin" of yourself, or you have to stop caring what gets built.
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#110What level is copy pasting snippets into the chatgpt window? Grug brained level 0? I sort of prefer it that way (using it as an amped up stackoverflow) since it forces me to decompose things in terms of natural boundaries (manual context management as it were) and allows me to think in terms of "what properties do I need this function to have" rather than just letting copilot take the wheel and glob the entire projec…
I do this too with the chatgpt mac app. It has a "pop out" feature it binds to option + space then i just ask away.