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Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by oarfish »

aziaziazi wrote: post #82
AnonC wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please elaborate and/or provide links?

I'll recommend starting here https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/soy/ (link of studies at the bottom of the page) Takeways related to parent: - "cardiovascular mortality ": > eating approximately 50 grams of soy protein a day (no small amount as this translates to 1½ pounds of tofu or eight 8-ounce glasses of soy milk!) in place of animal protein reduced harmful LDL cholesterol by 12.9 percent. [1] Such reductio…

> in place of animal protein

makes it sound like this is unrelated to soy specifically and more about displacing less healthful things (like higher saturated fat and caloric animal sources)

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

#102

Post by i_think_so »

slumberlust wrote: post #98
fumeux_fume wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I make it on the stove top. It also takes 30 minutes to cook and 10 to cool. My ratio of water to dry oatmeal is 3 to 1 by weight in grams and I mix in honey after it's done.

I microwave mine for 5 minutes (50% power) with a diced apple and some cinnamon. Ez Pz

I'm still looking for a good source of organic steel-cut oats, so I'm doing "regular" in an Instant Pot.

Life hack: put the measured water and oats inside a bowl, but put the bowl inside the Pot with half an inch of water. You're going to dirty the bowl anyway; no sense dirtying the Pot too. Just use gloves or a potholder to remove the bowl, unless you have very tough fingers.

Zero chance of the microwave under-cooking the oats or, worse, over-cooking and making a gawdawful mess in there.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

#103

Post by aziaziazi »

oarfish wrote: post #101
aziaziazi wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll recommend starting here https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/soy/ (link of studies at the bottom of the page) Takeways related to parent: - "cardiovascular mortality ": > eating approximately 50 grams of soy protein a day (no small amount as this translates to 1½ pounds of tofu or eight 8-ounce glasses of soy milk!) in place of animal protein reduced harmful LDL cholesterol by 12.9 percent. [1] Such reductio…

> in place of animal protein makes it sound like this is unrelated to soy specifically and more about displacing less healthful things (like higher saturated fat and caloric animal sources)

That’s fair. Re-reading the citation: tofu and soy milk contains very low amount of fibers so it’s probably not a greet exemple to illustrate "soy protein" if the fibers are at play. Or they aren’t. A dive into the source seems reasonable.

Note that saturated fat is also present in plants based food like peanut butter, although that one also contains tons of fibers (absent in animal sources). Coconut oil on the other hand is a tasty evil.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

#104

Post by dataviz1000 »

i_think_so wrote: post #102
slumberlust wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I microwave mine for 5 minutes (50% power) with a diced apple and some cinnamon. Ez Pz

I'm still looking for a good source of organic steel-cut oats, so I'm doing "regular" in an Instant Pot. Life hack: put the measured water and oats inside a bowl, but put the bowl inside the Pot with half an inch of water. You're going to dirty the bowl anyway; no sense dirtying the Pot too. Just use gloves or a potholder to remove the bowl, unless you have very tough fingers. Zero chance of the microwave under-cooki…

I use either Bob's Red Mill Steel Cut Oats which are cheaper and organic or McCann's steel cut oats. I don't know if I could tell the difference in a blind taste test but I think McCann's are creamier and nuttier in flavor.

> no sense dirtying the Pot too

I cook all meals at home so I run the dishwasher machine every night and put it in. I might try the bowl trick with single serving of rice.

Interesting that oats suffer the same economics as yellow bulbs in stop lights where they are used much less meaning it costs more to switch them to led than the electricity costs saved. Genetically modified (GMO) oats are not commercially available because the cost of developing them doesn't meet the low demand.

I also sometimes fry and egg and put it on top the oatmeal with maple syrup. I know it sounds gross but I like it.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

#105

Post by i_think_so »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #104
i_think_so wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still looking for a good source of organic steel-cut oats, so I'm doing "regular" in an Instant Pot. Life hack: put the measured water and oats inside a bowl, but put the bowl inside the Pot with half an inch of water. You're going to dirty the bowl anyway; no sense dirtying the Pot too. Just use gloves or a potholder to remove the bowl, unless you have very tough fingers. Zero chance of the microwave under-cooki…

I use either Bob's Red Mill Steel Cut Oats which are cheaper and organic or McCann's steel cut oats. I don't know if I could tell the difference in a blind taste test but I think McCann's are creamier and nuttier in flavor. > no sense dirtying the Pot too I cook all meals at home so I run the dishwasher machine every night and put it in. I might try the bowl trick with single serving of rice. Interesting that oats su…

> I use either Bob's Red Mill Steel Cut Oats which are cheaper and organic or McCann's steel cut oats.

Oh, those aren't at all as overpriced as I was expecting. Thanks for the recommendation.

> I might try the bowl trick with single serving of rice.

Just about anything I have ever cooked in an IP at the single to double serving size I have been able to do using that trick. (Rice, pasta, even "baking" personal sized cakes.) I've lived for years at a time in homes with no dishwasher so optimizing for not relying on one has been worth the effort for me.

Rice is a no-brainer. If you don't end up preferring it I'll be shocked. :-)

> Genetically modified (GMO) oats are not commercially available because the cost of developing them doesn't meet the low demand.

Wow. I had no idea. Thank you part 2. This is very good news. Anything I can do to get the glyphosate out of my diet is most welcome.

> I also sometimes fry and egg and put it on top the oatmeal with maple syrup. I know it sounds gross but I like it.

It sounds like a breakfast of pancakes and fried eggs and I've run out of cinnamon sugar and that maple syrup is right there looking at me.

Oh, did I mention that you can make one big pancake in your IP in the same bowl, and if you have "regular" oatmeal (not the instant kind, nor the un-cooked steel cut kind either) on hand you can substitute half of the flour and have a big ol' breakfast in 40-50 minutes? The only thing besides the bowl and spoon I need to clean is the 1/4c measuring cup, now that I can easily estimate the amount of salt I need to shake in, etc.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

#106

Post by jpfromlondon »

Loughla wrote: post #87
rmast wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by heart healthy diet? Egg whites, lean meats, etc? Strict whole food plant based?

Mediterranean but also I like a good beef dish occasionally, so mostly Mediterranean with the occasional filet or tacos de lingua or something.

The Mediterranean diet is something of a myth, some Mediterranean countries fair quite well on the life expectancy, CHD, and CVD figures, some not so much.

Additionally the data used are considered suspicious in the case of at least Italy to my recollection.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

#107

Post by lanfeust6 »

oarfish wrote: post #101
aziaziazi wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll recommend starting here https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/soy/ (link of studies at the bottom of the page) Takeways related to parent: - "cardiovascular mortality ": > eating approximately 50 grams of soy protein a day (no small amount as this translates to 1½ pounds of tofu or eight 8-ounce glasses of soy milk!) in place of animal protein reduced harmful LDL cholesterol by 12.9 percent. [1] Such reductio…

> in place of animal protein makes it sound like this is unrelated to soy specifically and more about displacing less healthful things (like higher saturated fat and caloric animal sources)

Read further research, there are some meta reviews. Soy protein yields results that other plant proteins don't.
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