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Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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Rant incoming... My wife and I live near a park. When we go on walks, we see people who have driven to the park, where they drive slowly around the parking lot, frequently stopping and starting, cars running the whole time. Rarely do they get out of their car. They are, I believe, playing Pokemon Go. Yesterday there were over 2 dozen cars driving around. Nobody was walking. They don't talk to anybody. They are like z…

It's usually not a question of laziness, but just path optimization. For big raid events, limited only to a few hours, Pokemon Go players will do whatever gets them to the most raids in that fixed amount of time. In places where the gyms are well placed in walkable parks, there are enough gyms that are close enough so that you can loop through the park, giving the system time to spawn new raids in the first gyms you already raided. Doing raids walking is actually preferable to driving, because in order to take down raid Pokemon, you also need a big enough raid party, and that's easier to judge with a crowd of people who agree to go in the same direction, instead of mystery players in mystery cars.

But in SO many places in the US, the gyms just aren't close enough. It's both a fault of the urban environment and the game system, but it just frequently creates situations where if you want to catch a time-limited raid Pokemon that's shiny or has high stats, driving is often the only way to play in your area.

What's funny though is that car or not, there are lots of Pokemon Go events where people don't talk to anybody. It's just a bunch of people who show up to the same spot, nod hey at each other, and then tap away on their phones in awkward proximity. Many people just have the personality type that drives them to solely play single player games, and there's no amount of game design that will push them to socialize.

But it varies - that's what it was like on my university campus, but I've also been to park events where the age range and social friendliness is extremely varied and wonderful. It is a fascinating and unexpected community.

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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Maybe it's just my age, or bias driven by nostalgia, but I'm not a huge fan of recent Pokemon production - I feel the Pokemon creations themselves feel quite forced. But thinking back to Red/Blue days, and the OG Pokemon, that will always bring back good memories and nostalgia.

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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post #42

Now that Niantic was bought, how will Nintendo prevent any damage to the brand from the 'seemingly' money grab changes to Pokémon Go?

You mean Pokemon TCG which introduced illegal unregulated gambling for millions of kids (since 1996)? Don’t forget to buy the next pack for the special holo Raichu DX Spring Edition. Don’t pretend that Game Freak/Creatures/Nintendo are some saints.

What on earth are you talking about? 1) card collecting isn't gambling because there is no expectation of winning money, 2) Baseball and sports cards have been a thing for like 100 years at this point.

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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I was just thinking too when there are new IPs, they are completely indistinct today. Take a character from any of the past 15 years of animated movies and they are interchangeable with each other. Everyone is afraid to establish a design language beyond looking kinda-sorta like a pixar character. 90s were so different with creative freedom with the media we were exposed to. All those shows had their own art style. C…

>Take a character from any of the past 15 years of animated movies and they are interchangeable with each other That's mostly an american thing You should watch some anime

Anime animation quality isn't what it was in a lot of cases too.

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean Pokemon TCG which introduced illegal unregulated gambling for millions of kids (since 1996)? Don’t forget to buy the next pack for the special holo Raichu DX Spring Edition. Don’t pretend that Game Freak/Creatures/Nintendo are some saints.

What on earth are you talking about? 1) card collecting isn't gambling because there is no expectation of winning money, 2) Baseball and sports cards have been a thing for like 100 years at this point.

Nowadays a significant number of people who buy trading card packs/boxes do so as speculation of making money via obtaining a card they can sell for money. Baseball and sports cards weren't exchangeable for significant money 100 years ago.

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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It is one of the few franchises that spans generations. My kids enjoy it, just as my wife and I enjoyed it before them. We have fun playing the games together. I imagine my parents felt the same way with Star Wars.

I don't think your parents will enjoy the current crop of Star Wars IP.

As an OG Star Wars fan (I was 21 when it came out), I had a really hard time when my kids liked the prequel trilogy more than the originals. As my youngest once told me (when he was in his teens), the original trilogy was great, but the prequels were the Star Wars his generation grew up with, and that made a difference.

I'm fortunate that my kids grew up not only with their own favorites, but with appreciation for mine as well. The Star Wars comment opened my eyes to generational differences that have only grown since then, but at least with mutual respect for our differences. (And none of us really like the sequel trilogy that much).

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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"Block" games existed in the 90s, perhaps, but Minecraft is from 2009. "Factorio" type puzzles may have existed, but nothing of that detail until 2016. Part of the big advancements of the 80-90s was that the technology was advancing insanely quickly, which meant that things that were simply impossible a year ago were commonplace next year. LEGO still exists, but the Lego of 2026 is not the Lego of the 90s (for good o…

"Harvest Moon never moved to PC/Mac" That's not the opening that Stardew took. It was only on PC because that's the platform that doesn't make you fill out an application to get dev hardware for. The opening they took was Harvest Moon putting out increasingly uninnovative game after increasingly uninnovative game for years. Rune Factory innovated exactly once and then swore never to do so again (though they managed t…

Oh, a ton of other things went right for lightning to strike - but find a Harvest Moon or even Animal Crossing clone on PC before Stardew - there just wasn't much there.

Likely part of it was realizing that you could eschew the 3D realism craze that was high at the time, and still succeed.

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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While there IS innovation and novelty in the toy industry, I can tell you from experience in the field that the people with the money are the parents. So the nostalgia play is a very strong tactic. Sell what the parents had because they will INSTANTLY want to give the same to their kids.

I get the logic, I didn't grow up with my parents youth culture though.

Can't speak to your age or location, but... probably a lot of things you grew up with were part of their childhood too. Disney, Looney Tunes, DC / Marvel, Lord of the Rings, Winnie the Pooh, Star Wars...

Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

#109
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the logic, I didn't grow up with my parents youth culture though.

Can't speak to your age or location, but... probably a lot of things you grew up with were part of their childhood too. Disney, Looney Tunes, DC / Marvel, Lord of the Rings, Winnie the Pooh, Star Wars...

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Re: Thirty years on, Pokémon is still a monster hit

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As a kid, I had the original Pokemon Blue for the GBC. Played it, enjoyed it, found it novel, beat it. Went to an event, got an authentic Mew (certificate is still around somewhere). Not long after, I was gifted Pokemon Silver. Played a bit of it. Didn't find it novel anymore. Very rapidly had this feeling of "I see where this is going and I want off this ride". Gave up on Pokemon, and haven't regretted it even sligh…

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