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Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

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Yes, for those under 30 you have no idea how normalized smoking was right thru the 90s. Restaurants reeked of it, bars more so. A ridiculous percent of men smoked. I have memories of being quite young sitting in a relatives lap at a baseball game while they smoked. Or my coach in little league smoking a pipe in the dugout filled with 11 year olds.

I was explaining this to my elementary school aged kids just a few days ago. We were eating in a restaurant and I told them that when I was their age most restaurants had a smoking and non-smoking section. Of course the smoke did not respect the invisible barrier. The idea that people could just smoke indoors and it was normal really blew their minds.

I went to bingo years ago and there was a glass partition between the smoking and non, but it didn't go to the ceiling. So you'd sit in the non and just watch a wave of cigarette smoke roll over the top of the glass into your area... I only went once because of that.

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Yes, for those under 30 you have no idea how normalized smoking was right thru the 90s. Restaurants reeked of it, bars more so. A ridiculous percent of men smoked. I have memories of being quite young sitting in a relatives lap at a baseball game while they smoked. Or my coach in little league smoking a pipe in the dugout filled with 11 year olds.

Smoking was allowed on planes ! The first time I ever flew as a kid, I was so excited to be on a plane! And then it turned out to be a 5 hour+ flight with negligible entertainment options and I was so bored... And then, another dude got bored so he moved to the empty back rows of the plane and smoked for the rest of the flight, and the whole plane was suffused with the smell, and I was so sick. Like, even those who s…

Yeah, the airplane armrests had those little metal ashtrays with the door you could fidget with...

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The US is one. If you live by a small airport frequented by personal aircraft, you're getting bombarded by lead. Now just imagine living next to a teaching airport that does aerial laps around the neighborhood.

Why the hate on the gens? Most of this stuff was not widely known. There was no internet, so you only got info from 3 tv channels and a newspaper, magazines and conversation. Blame it on the corps.

Lead poisoning was discovered in a year that is denoted with "B.C.E".

It wasn't news when the additive was invented for gasoline in the 20s, and it wasn't news all through the 70s.

Of course blame it on the corporations. On GM specifically, who also lobbied for jay-walking to become illegal so their cars would stop getting bad press for killing people.

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There is no advantage for eggs. I use a seasoned iron or steel pan and it's just as easy with better results.

I recently switched from teflon to stainless steel, and after a few false starts figuring it out I like it more now. Also for something that leaves a lot of grease like sausage and bacon, the stainless steel surprised me by being easier to clean.

What did the false starts teach you? I have some stainless steel pans and sometimes they work great and sometimes they're just mysteriously sticky, with whatever I'm cooking bonding to the pan.

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Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

> It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere Which is pretty much what you should do if you are concerned about your health at all.

You can absolutely care about your health and still enjoy some unhealthy things every once in a while, be it dinning out, a grill party, a glass of wine or a motorcycle ride.

Thinking that you must optimize every single bit of your health 100% of the time or you do not care about your health at all is just pathological black and white thinking. What a miserable way to spend the mere decades you have on this planet.

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So hard to believe all the skiers and snowboarders were putting PFAS as wax just until couple years ago. Also in Germany, you can buy "permanent baking paper" that is pure PTFE without a problem, which is insane to me.

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

And it's amazing. I'd rather eat some inert and safe teflon flakes than carcinogens in the charred or burned food.

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So hard to believe all the skiers and snowboarders were putting PFAS as wax just until couple years ago. Also in Germany, you can buy "permanent baking paper" that is pure PTFE without a problem, which is insane to me.

I mean, did you know most dental floss has PFAS? You have to go out of your way to get PFAS free Do you know what "countertop sealer" is made of? It's PFAS! Lots and lots of people rub PFAS on their food surfaces on purpose! The stuff is everywhere even if you think you are avoiding it.

I use a water flosser, and walrus oil for my cutting board.

Re: Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

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I assume a lot of people 50+ were exposed to a lot more lead and cigarette smoke than younger people.

On the Underground there were two carriages for smokers, they were usually a bit more empty, and they were browned with tar on the walls and ceiling.

The ban on smoking on the Underground was after the second tube station fire when they realised it might be dangerous, there was also a football stadium that caught fire around the same time too.

The root cause seem to be a build up of rubbish, along with a cigarette but starting it.

So many tragedies in the mid-eighties UK.

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So hard to believe all the skiers and snowboarders were putting PFAS as wax just until couple years ago. Also in Germany, you can buy "permanent baking paper" that is pure PTFE without a problem, which is insane to me.

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

My understanding is that Teflon is perfectly safe. The concern comes from by-products of Teflon manufacturing which leech into water. The Teflon molocules are really long, they can't get stuck anywhere and your body just removes them through your urine.
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