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Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

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#101

I do not understand why it is a big deal for Antropic to lose the pentagon contract? I mean, they’re already making forays in the enterprise space and there’s 10s of other contracts Anthropic has already won. What makes this one so special?

The big deal is the government threatened to force Anthropic to produce what they wanted and interfere with Anthropic's sales to government contractors.

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#102
post #96

Happy to keep my underutilized subscription as long as they keep fighting ('-')7

Kinda the wrong venue for “fighting,” no? Congress is the place we decided for that, and we all abide by its laws. If Uncle Sam comes knocking, a fight just means you’re the enemy.

Absolutely not, and it's tragic that Trump has twisted your understanding of the American government so much. It's your patriotic duty to oppose even the highest ranking government officials when they want to do bad things, and neither Congress nor the Secretary of Defense have any lawful power to stop you.

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#103

> A source familiar with the Tuesday meeting says the Pentagon said it would terminate Anthropic’s contract by Friday if the company does not agree to its terms. Pentagon officials also warned they would either use the Defense Production Act against Anthropic, or designate Anthropic a supply chain risk if the company didn’t comply with their demands. So they're saying they won't use it if it comes with restrictions.…

the funny thing that no one seems to be talking about is that all the other LLM's have already agreed and Anthropic is the only holding out.

Anthropic was the only one that was cleared for use in classified systems though. So it doesnt really seem to matter much if it wasnt being used in those types of systems? xAi has now reached a deal though to be used in these circumstances and has signed the paper.

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#104
post #26

Tangent: is there a future for AI offerings with guardrails? What kind of user wants to pay for a product that occasionally tells you "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"? Why would I pay for a product that doesn't do what I want, despite being capable? I predict that as AI becomes less of a bubble and more of an everyday thing - and thus subject to typical market pressures - offerings with guardrails will st…

The big companies with reputations to protect will keep the guardrails in place. I don't think there's a huge market pressure to remove the guardrails since for the majority of uses the guardrails are fine. Pentagon excluded. And there can be serious fallout that makes them lose other customers when the public thinks the guardrails aren't enough (see Grok). But I'm sure open source models will exist without the guardrails.

Re: Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

#106

This is fascism. What law are they breaking? What authority does hegseth have? This feels alot like the threat of state violence to silent dissent.

Basically yes. The Trump regime is made up of the absolute worst kind of people. They seem utterly incapable of comprehending real solutions to any of the problems that we face. The only thing they know how to do is bark orders to do whatever simple thing can fit inside their own heads, and then resort to bullying if the target does not comply. It is prudent to avoid giving such people any more capabilities, which wi…

Kakistocracy.

Re: Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

#107
post #96

Happy to keep my underutilized subscription as long as they keep fighting ('-')7

Kinda the wrong venue for “fighting,” no? Congress is the place we decided for that, and we all abide by its laws. If Uncle Sam comes knocking, a fight just means you’re the enemy.

"We decided you have no choice but to build us the Torment Nexus."

Re: Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

#108

> But Anthropic has concerns over two issues that it isn’t willing to drop, the source said: AI-controlled weapons and mass domestic surveillance of American citizens. Not a good look for the Pentagon.

A couple of years ago the Netherlands accidentally bombed an Iraqi village off the map after getting some questionable intel from the US. Not a single American ever gave a shit but it was a little bit of a scandal for the Dutch government- which was quickly fixed in the typical Dutch way of transferring some money to the victims.

I just don't see how AI dropping the bombs is going to make anything worse.

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#109
post #8

If OpenAI employees have an inch of spine left, they better demand Sama to take the same stance on this as Dario. No mass surveillance and no autonomous weapons.

Sam would sell his mom to make $0.50. Pretty sure he will be willing to do whatever the Pentagon wants.

I always hear this view of Altman, but then why does he have no equity in OpenAI? What’s the greedy master plan there?

Re: Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sam would sell his mom to make $0.50. Pretty sure he will be willing to do whatever the Pentagon wants.

I always hear this view of Altman, but then why does he have no equity in OpenAI? What’s the greedy master plan there?

He might get 5 to 10% in the restructuring that's underway. That would be 25 to 50 billion dollars
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