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Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#101

Post by signatoremo »

echoangle wrote: post #73
signatoremo wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because you just lack of imagination. Imagine if you have a human personal assistant, what would you ask them to do? Examples: "Find me the cheapest ticket to Las Vegas for the first week of June. Buy one at anytime that you think is reasonable. Wait until no later than two months from now before buying. Get two tickets if my brother can also go". "Email me if anyone posts a Sega multi mega for sale. But only…

> Imagine if you have a human personal assistant, what would you ask them to do? That’s kind of the confusing thing for me, I wouldn’t have a human personal assistant do anything for me as long as any money is on the line. I couldn’t teach them my preferences well enough to trust them to do it the way I want, instead of just doing it myself. Personal assistants only make sense to me if you’re so rich that money doesn…

> I wouldn’t have a human personal assistant do anything for me as long as any money is on the line.

You don’t have to trust them with money. You can ask them to send you the info for you to do the final step.

> Your trip booking thing for example is something I would never give to a human assistant.

Maybe not you, but people already use personal travel agency for their booking need, see for example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/travelagents/comments/1i4fiod/best_...

Air ticket booking agency used to be popular before the Internet made that business obsolete.

> The alert for stuff on sale can already be done on the usual price tracking websites

Sega multi mega is a rare collectible item. No price tracking websites have it. You need to frequent online groups or forums of enthusiasts. eBay may have ones, but information (e.g color) may be missing, and follow-up is required. OpenClaw can do that for you.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#102

Post by fooster »

lm28469 wrote: post #41
brcmthrowaway wrote: post #9

Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc

There is no special sauce, it's mass hysteria driven by fake adoption metrics and people who don't know anything about computers who let "agents" run free on theirs. It's the equivalent of showing a magician cut a women in a box in half to a 5 years old kid... Put them in the same category as the neckbeards getting a hard on every 3 weeks for the past 2 years when they get to see the new version of ThE PeLiCaN On A B…

It is a huge unlock. Ignore this snark and try it yourself. Any agentic use case you can imagine you can start to tackle.

Openclaw itself is buggy but the idea is amazing.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#103

Post by 1659447091 »

signatoremo wrote: post #64
mpweiher wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dunno, my calendar reminds me "out of the blue", without me having to initiate a conversation, that it's time to leave for the gym, no "claw" or "ai" involved. I always have my backpack with me, so if I need milk I can pick it up on the way back. And I am pretty sure that I have to notice if I need milk myself. The tech sounds cool, but whenever I hear about actual applications, I don't see the point.

That's because you just lack of imagination. Imagine if you have a human personal assistant, what would you ask them to do? Examples: "Find me the cheapest ticket to Las Vegas for the first week of June. Buy one at anytime that you think is reasonable. Wait until no later than two months from now before buying. Get two tickets if my brother can also go". "Email me if anyone posts a Sega multi mega for sale. But only…

> Imagine if you have a human personal assistant, what would you ask them to do?

Those are not good examples for why people have a human assistant, you have human assistants to do in-person or person-to-person things that you don't have the time or desire to do yourself. They are simply not the same as releasing a 24/7 ai roulette process on the internet with all your payment and account info.

The online monitoring examples can be done with current automation tools and scripts

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#104

Post by fooster »

ed_mercer wrote: post #63
sailfast wrote: post #44

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Crons. A local daemon. System access as a user with the ability to listen to changes. Some idea of shared “memory” between sessions. Provider agnostic about AI. Multi-model.

Can you elaborate on “listen for changes”? AFAIK it can’t do that and needs cron jobs to check.

Webhooks are a thing.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#105

Post by mpweiher »

signatoremo wrote: post #64
mpweiher wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dunno, my calendar reminds me "out of the blue", without me having to initiate a conversation, that it's time to leave for the gym, no "claw" or "ai" involved. I always have my backpack with me, so if I need milk I can pick it up on the way back. And I am pretty sure that I have to notice if I need milk myself. The tech sounds cool, but whenever I hear about actual applications, I don't see the point.

That's because you just lack of imagination. Imagine if you have a human personal assistant, what would you ask them to do? Examples: "Find me the cheapest ticket to Las Vegas for the first week of June. Buy one at anytime that you think is reasonable. Wait until no later than two months from now before buying. Get two tickets if my brother can also go". "Email me if anyone posts a Sega multi mega for sale. But only…

Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly: none of these scenarios you give as examples are things that resonate with me at all, and I wouldn't delegate them to a human personal assistant either.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#106

Post by djmips »

zackify wrote: post #77
_pdp_ wrote: post #72

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You can do both with the cron daemon. But pantalk can also trigger the agent after some notifications are buffered too. So that also is a trigger. You don't really need one massive library. All operating systems have native ways to do all of these things and more. I don't know. You can even use systemd if you like.

Hahaha a year ago I did this. Crontab -e Run Claude -p and Claude already has mcp,'s configured so it can do anything I wanted.

You should be like '$10,000,000 please'

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#107

Post by enraged_camel »

lm28469 wrote: post #41
brcmthrowaway wrote: post #9

Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc

There is no special sauce, it's mass hysteria driven by fake adoption metrics and people who don't know anything about computers who let "agents" run free on theirs. It's the equivalent of showing a magician cut a women in a box in half to a 5 years old kid... Put them in the same category as the neckbeards getting a hard on every 3 weeks for the past 2 years when they get to see the new version of ThE PeLiCaN On A B…

Damn son, you sure sound salty!

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#108

Post by runjake »

_pdp_ wrote: post #61

You don't need to use OpenClaw, NanoClaw or any of these new variants. You can literally use Codex, Claude Code, Gemini, OpenCode for the same thing. The only thing that it is missing from all of them is the communication channels because none of them come with native communication tools like OpenClaw. But this is not such a big deal. I made an open-source lightweight daemon in Go that fills that gap. All it does is…

You’re missing the point. None of those have the same integrations into other software and APIs that the OpenClaw plugins provide. And not everyone wants to write their own minimal implementation. This is why OpenClaw is popular.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#109

Post by enraged_camel »

mpweiher wrote: post #105
signatoremo wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because you just lack of imagination. Imagine if you have a human personal assistant, what would you ask them to do? Examples: "Find me the cheapest ticket to Las Vegas for the first week of June. Buy one at anytime that you think is reasonable. Wait until no later than two months from now before buying. Get two tickets if my brother can also go". "Email me if anyone posts a Sega multi mega for sale. But only…

Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly: none of these scenarios you give as examples are things that resonate with me at all , and I wouldn't delegate them to a human personal assistant either.

I mean, yes, some people have real issues with delegating tasks to others. Those people probably wouldn't get much benefit from an... AI assistant. That doesn't "illustrate your point", it just states the obvious.

Re: NanoClaw moved from Apple Containers to Docker

#110

Post by magic_hamster »

_pdp_ wrote: post #61

You don't need to use OpenClaw, NanoClaw or any of these new variants. You can literally use Codex, Claude Code, Gemini, OpenCode for the same thing. The only thing that it is missing from all of them is the communication channels because none of them come with native communication tools like OpenClaw. But this is not such a big deal. I made an open-source lightweight daemon in Go that fills that gap. All it does is…

> You don't need to use OpenClaw, NanoClaw or any of these new variants.

> Here's my own implementation!

Insert xkcd standards joke.

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