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Why is Claude an Electron app?

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Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#101

I don't know why anyone uses Electron anymore, Tauri produces much smaller binaries and is amazing.

Chrome DevTools Protocol, navigation stack control, download manager, permission mediation, certificate inspection, cache policy control, so nothing you can't implement in an afternoon

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#102

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Why isn't Claude doing QA testing for you?

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, you cant rely on the thing that produced invalid output to validate it's own output. That is fundementally insufficient, despite it potentially catching some errors.

I can't tell if that is sarcasm. Of course you can use the same model to write tests. That's a different problem altogether, with a different series of prompts altogether!

When it comes to code review, though, it can be a good idea to pit multiple models against each other. I've relied on that trick from day 1.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#104
post #59

Because Anthropic has never claimed that code is free? It's pretty easy to argue your point if you pick a strawman as your opponent. They have said that you can be significantly more productive (which seems to be the case for many) and that most of their company primarily uses LLM to write code and no longer write it by hand. They also seems to be doing well w.r.t. competition. There are legitimate complaints to be m…

Head of Claude Code at Anthropic 3 days ago: "Coding is largely solved" https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/head-of-claude-code-what-...

I'm not sure coding has ever been the hard part. Hard part (to me) has always been to be smart enough to know what, exactly, I (or somebody else) want. Or has someone heard of a case when someone says something like "These requirements are perfectly clear and unambiguous and do not have any undefined edge/corner cases. But implementing that is still really hard, much harder than what producing this unicorn requirements spec was"?

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#105
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, you cant rely on the thing that produced invalid output to validate it's own output. That is fundementally insufficient, despite it potentially catching some errors.

What if "the thing" is a human and another human validating the output. Is that its own output (= that of a human) or not? Doesn't this apply to LLMs - you do not review the code within the same session that you used to generate the code?

I think a human and an LLM are fundamentally different things, so no. Otherwise you could make the argument that only something extra-terrestrial could validate our work, since LLM's like all machines are also our outputs.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#106
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, you cant rely on the thing that produced invalid output to validate it's own output. That is fundementally insufficient, despite it potentially catching some errors.

Damn. Guess I'll stop QAing my own work from now.

Yeah, someone should invent code review.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#107

Because code isn't free. I can see it in my team. We've all been using Claude a lot for the last 6 months. It's hard to measure the impact, but I can tell our systems are as buggy as ever. AI isn't a silver bullet.

Why isn't Claude doing QA testing for you?

Why isn't it doing it for Anthropic ?

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#108
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, you cant rely on the thing that produced invalid output to validate it's own output. That is fundementally insufficient, despite it potentially catching some errors.

What if "the thing" is a human and another human validating the output. Is that its own output (= that of a human) or not? Doesn't this apply to LLMs - you do not review the code within the same session that you used to generate the code?

The problem now is that it’s a human using Claude to write the code and another using Claude to review it.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#109
post #87

This post and this entire thread are HN-sniping to the millionth degree. We have all the classics here: - AI bad - JavaScript bad - Developers not understanding why Electron has utility because they don't understand the browser as a fourth OS platform - Electron eats my ram oh no posted from my 2gb thinkpad

My guy if you can’t see the problem with a $300B SF company that of course claims to #HireTheBest having a dumpy UX due to their technical choices I don’t really know what to tell you. Same goes for these companies having npm as an out-of-the-box dependency for their default CLI tools. I’m going to assume anyone who thinks that every user’s machine is powerful enough to run electron apps, or even support bloated deps hasn’t written any serious software. And that’s fine in general (to each their own!), but these companies publicly, strongly, claim to be the best, and hire the best. These are not small 10 people startups.

Re: Why is Claude an Electron app?

#110
The use of "Free" in the title is probably too much of a distraction from the content (even though the opening starts with an actual cost). The point of the article does not actually revolve about LLM code generation being $0 but that's what most of the responses will be about because of the title.
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