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Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#101

Post by filldorns »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #90
filldorns wrote: post #63

Come on guys, 2026 and you still using "blacklist". Why not BlockList?

I do use "blocklist" on new project and name my main "trunk" and not "master" but I'll both a ) defend other's rights to use terms like blocklists and master and b ) call out the virtue signalling ones who are trying to push a political agenda by trying to control thoughts (by attempting to control speech).

There's no political interest here. (Although I believe EVERYTHING is political, including not taking a stand!)

The only point I'm making is that (as a Black person) I have the authority to tell you that it's important and how I feel. You can defend whatever you want, I'm just communicating and SUGGESTING that you change the term.

What I find funny is that many here argue that we can't even SUGGEST. And they still say they're in favor of democracy. Oh, okay!

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#102

Post by charonn0 »

filldorns wrote: post #100
charonn0 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because changing blacklist to blocklist, master to main, etc. is a meaningless act of virtue signalling.

So what? Your proposal is to change nothing, continue as is, and subtly continue using terms like "blacklist" as something bad and "whitelist" as something good... I don't think I understand your point. I don't see any real sense in it. Unfortunately, MANY people still think this is nonsense and shouldn't be given attention. What you don't understand is that you subtly say that things from Black people are bad and th…

No, I'm not proposing to change nothing, continue as is, nor do I use coded language to express my secret inner racism.

I'm saying that changing words like "blacklist" or "master" is purely performative and actually quite selfish. People do it to feel good about themselves for "helping" without actually having to do anything helpful. It's the moral equivalent of sending "thoughts and prayers".

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#103

Post by srid »

dimava wrote: post #37

Also check the https://botblock.ai/ , AI extension to detect AI replies on twitter

Does it even work?

I ask becaue it considers @lilycoy__ (an obvious AI generated account, as quoted by Robin Hanson https://x.com/robinhanson/status/2025332066552819782>) to be "100% human"

https://i.imgur.com/NQHVcdM.png

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#104

Post by filldorns »

charonn0 wrote: post #102
filldorns wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what? Your proposal is to change nothing, continue as is, and subtly continue using terms like "blacklist" as something bad and "whitelist" as something good... I don't think I understand your point. I don't see any real sense in it. Unfortunately, MANY people still think this is nonsense and shouldn't be given attention. What you don't understand is that you subtly say that things from Black people are bad and th…

No, I'm not proposing to change nothing, continue as is, nor do I use coded language to express my secret inner racism. I'm saying that changing words like "blacklist" or "master" is purely performative and actually quite selfish. People do it to feel good about themselves for "helping" without actually having to do anything helpful. It's the moral equivalent of sending "thoughts and prayers".

I'm not saying that those who use these terms are racist. I'm saying that language evolves. If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression, why not use them? It costs nothing and can make the environment more inclusive. This doesn't replace concrete actions, but it also doesn't prevent them from happening.

If changing a word is "purely performative," then keeping it is also purely performative. The difference is that one choice preserves a metaphor of domination and the other does not. Technology is made of choices. This is one too.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#105

Post by GaryBluto »

quiet35 wrote: post #38

I like the idea and even considered contributing to the list, but this stopped me: > NAQ (Never Asked Questions) > My website is on your list! > Cry about it. That's quite a suspicious attitude. Clearly the maintainer believes he is infallible. I understand the emotions behind this, but this is not how a public blacklist should be maintained.

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Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#106

Post by toofy »

flkiwi wrote: post #13
rdmuser wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I find that I prefer badly written english or auto-translated stuff written in languages foreign to me over ai generated or even just ai polished works I've seen. There is just so much more character, depth and variance there vs ultra ai generic or slop text. That being said this project seems focused on content farms not people who just need a little help writing so this whole conversation is a bit of a s…

One of my coworkers is EXTREMELY capable but functionally almost illiterate. He’s recently discovered that he can put an idea in Copilot and have it generate an email. So now instead of brief, correct, but difficult to parse emails we receive 20-paragraph, bulleted, formatted OpenAI slop. It’s been a very strange thing to see, like someone getting extraordinarily bad cosmetic surgery.

> like someone getting extraordinarily bad cosmetic surgery.

this is such an incredible way to phrase what it all looks like to the rest of us. and i suspect the people doing it, just like those with obvious cosmetic surgery, have no idea how weird and off it looks.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#107

Post by s0ss »

Drupon wrote: post #84
matheusmoreira wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminder that false positives are not only possible but likely. I remember one instance where you could get people banned by sending them a specific string of characters over chat. Anticheat was scanning the entire contents of RAM looking for it. These days anticheat software is likely to snap at anything. Who knows what they think of the development tools Hacker News users are likely to have on their computers? They…

Yeah that's what the people love to say on the Steam forums when they've gotten busted in one of its many ban waves.

Both of you can be right.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#109

Post by ragall »

dangus wrote: post #23
lifthrasiir wrote: post #3

Not necessarily disagreeing the whole principle... > All I hear is skill issue. Imagine needing an AI to write stuff. Grammarly users (and underrepresented non-English speakers) would complain.

This specific list from this specific author isn’t worth using since they refuse to remove items from the list if domain ownership changes. E.g., bought a domain that previously hosted AI content. E.g., Whitehouse.com used to be a porn site, now it’s not.

> E.g., bought a domain that previously hosted AI content.

Before buying a domain you should check if it's present in blacklists.

> Whitehouse.com used to be a porn site, now it’s not.

I won't lose sleep over that.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

#110

Post by ragall »

filldorns wrote: post #104
charonn0 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I'm not proposing to change nothing, continue as is, nor do I use coded language to express my secret inner racism. I'm saying that changing words like "blacklist" or "master" is purely performative and actually quite selfish. People do it to feel good about themselves for "helping" without actually having to do anything helpful. It's the moral equivalent of sending "thoughts and prayers".

I'm not saying that those who use these terms are racist. I'm saying that language evolves. If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression, why not use them? It costs nothing and can make the environment more inclusive. This doesn't replace concrete actions, but it also doesn't prevent them from happening. If changing a word is "purely performative," then keeping it is also pu…

> I'm saying that language evolves.

That means I won't bother fighting changes that became established before I was born. I most definitely doesn't mean I have to go along with every change I see proposed now.

> If there are equivalent technical alternatives that don't carry a history of oppression

Words are not oppression.

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