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I'm not clear on what Tesla is doing these days. They've been left in the dust on autonomous driving, they've failed to update their successful car models, and their only new model was a spectacular failure.
Tesla Model 3 highest overall in owner satisfaction.
"Left in the dust?"
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The point is to compare the consequences of more deaths by not using autopilot with deaths by the autopilot. If you accidentally kill someone with your car, do you think you should have to pay $243m?
> If you accidentally kill someone with your car, do you think you should have to pay $243m? If you have billions of dollars, and somehow can't go to prison, yes you should. If not in compensation to the victim, then in some kind of fine scaled to wealth. The amount paid needs to be high enough to be a deterrent to the individual who did wrong.
Besides, nobody makes you turn on the autodrive.
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I'm not clear on what Tesla is doing these days. They've been left in the dust on autonomous driving, they've failed to update their successful car models, and their only new model was a spectacular failure.
https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-elec... Tesla Model 3 highest overall in owner satisfaction. "Left in the dust?"
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This is, technically speaking, pure bullshit. You have no proof because none exists.
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That doesn't make any sense. If I, a human, hit the brakes in time and avoid an accident today, then hit someone tomorrow, should I not be held responsible for the second incident?
The point is to compare the consequences of more deaths by not using autopilot with deaths by the autopilot. If you accidentally kill someone with your car, do you think you should have to pay $243m?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you accidentally kill someone with your car, do you think you should have to pay $243m? If you have billions of dollars, and somehow can't go to prison, yes you should. If not in compensation to the victim, then in some kind of fine scaled to wealth. The amount paid needs to be high enough to be a deterrent to the individual who did wrong.
If this extreme judgement causes Tesla to abandon autodrive, there will be more deaths on the road. It just isn't rational. Besides, nobody makes you turn on the autodrive.
What is autodrive? Are you talking about basic autopilot, enhanced autopilot, or full self-driving? They are separate modes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot#Driving_featur...
Which revision of the hardware and software is the "good one"? Remember that Tesla claimed in 2016 that all Teslas in production "have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver". But that was, of course, a lie:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240730071548/https://tesla.com...
https://electrek.co/2025/10/22/tesla-changes-all-cars-have-s...
What Tesla used to claim was "full autonomy" is now called "Full Self-Driving (supervised)", whatever that's supposed to mean. How many times has "Full Self-Driving (supervised)" gone dangerously wrong but was stopped? How many times was supervision not enough:
https://electrek.co/2025/05/23/tesla-full-self-driving-veers...
Show me some concrete numbers to back your claims. If you can't do that then I think you've fallen victim to Tesla's dishonest marketing.
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That doesn't make any sense. If I, a human, hit the brakes in time and avoid an accident today, then hit someone tomorrow, should I not be held responsible for the second incident?
The point is to compare the consequences of more deaths by not using autopilot with deaths by the autopilot. If you accidentally kill someone with your car, do you think you should have to pay $243m?
It would be a large portion of my net worth for sure. Maybe also prison time. Can we put Autopilot or Tesla in a prison?