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MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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I recall there were quite a few experiments where people use certain keywords heavily just to get closely related ads later on. I can totally relate my experience with it as well. Of course it is inconclusive - but if there is an incentive, management of big companies will venture into it. And chinese management is no different from western ones to that matter.

They don't pick the keywords uniformly randomly from a list of all keywords though. They think they randomly picked something that popped up in their mind, but those keywords are either - stuff they saw online recently — ads or otherwise, which put the keywords in their mind - or stuff they were already interested in recently Not hard to imagine targeting algorithms picking up on either of these

Are those your assumptions or something that have been tested?

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #86

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I am not sure where hyperbole is - if your believe it is "fake news", it's your choice. Do chinese apps make use of all data they can access? Absolutely. Do western apps make use of all data they can access? Absolutely. Both concepts are evil. Talking one is evil while dropping off the other is skew of discussion towards vilifying one side and omitting the subject.

China and Chinese companies flaunt every single law that at all hinders them, IP law being the typical example. The EU has the Privacy Shield agreement with the USA. Such an agreement with China would be effectively impossible, since even if it existed, they'd simply ignore it. People criticise Five Eyes, and for good reason, but it's existence at least means that intelligence agencies are willing to follow domestic…

> but it's existence at least means that intelligence agencies are willing to follow domestic law

Oh they break it alright whenever they please. And they have been caught handsomely.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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I see a lot of discussions about government level spying, this is a legitimate debate, but it mustn't obscure the "boring" security threat storing the results of ps aux poses! This is security 101 to never store this kind of information. I mean a bad actor now just has to (gain) access to these files!

I mean besides the theorical high level threat, there is a very practical one maybe sufficient for suing the company if it was a western one (I don't work in legal, I don't know what I'm saying)

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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I hear this theory being claimed so much, but I don't see any real evidence for it; we have routers that you can monitor traffic on, we have microphone use indicators on mobile, and I would imagine it would be pretty clear if an app was uploading audio with even very basic monitoring tools. Correct me if I'm wrong, however. I'm not denying that a lot of data is likely surreptitiously collected, but I'm talking microp…

I recall there were quite a few experiments where people use certain keywords heavily just to get closely related ads later on. I can totally relate my experience with it as well. Of course it is inconclusive - but if there is an incentive, management of big companies will venture into it. And chinese management is no different from western ones to that matter.

It's been a while since I browsed anything without an ad blocker.

Do you still get ads for the exact thing you just bought for a week after buying it? :)

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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The new Delta Force is made in China nowadays and apparently scans your whole hdd (for anti cheat).

For security, yo.

I'm sick of corporations and bootlickers who claim you cannot do games without anticheats. Even if I am not personally running that software, all the users are still normalizing spying on our devices and networks.

If your business model relies on violating the privacy of others, your business deserves to die.

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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The new Delta Force is made in China nowadays and apparently scans your whole hdd (for anti cheat).

For security, yo.

It's the least convincing excuse used to circle around GDPR and similar laws. "I swear, it's for security! (please ignore the part in our ToS that says we can resell your HW configuration profile and installed software stats to our commercial partners)".

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #30

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> is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. How is it any different from western apps listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to 3 letter agencies?

There's a massive difference between having a country spying on it's own citizen versus having an adversarial country doing it. The three-letter agencies would likely not be trying to sabotage or destroy their own country's economy and global standing for one.

ICE? DOJ? Hello?

Re: MuMu Player (NetEase) silently runs 17 reconnaissance commands every 30 minutes

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post #7

Shits like this is what makes me wary about Chinese made video games proliferating in the west. You never know if your kid's genshing impact or black myth wukong is listening to you and siphoning all data on your local network to China. A competent Western administration would have banned it all years ago. But instead of securing the future of Western civilization, they want detente and cheap plastic goods instead. S…

But non-chinese game listening and siphoning all your data is ok.
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