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Alabama offers three tricks to fix poor urban schools

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Re: Alabama offers three tricks to fix poor urban schools

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I tend to think "good teachers" is a thing that doesn't really matter outside of niche 1-1 breakthrough moments. I know there are exceptions. Teachers who go way above and beyond, but that's not a scalable solution. A great teacher can make a difference in a handful of children. But they can't fix a fundamentally broken system. I tend to agree with you that it's not teachers that make a school good. It's the reputati…

I do think the impact good teachers have is relatively minor, except for the part where a good teacher isn't a bad teacher, and the damage a bad teacher can do is enormous. A young inexperienced teacher is almost certainly getting into the career because they want to help kids. They may become a bad teacher, the bitter sort of teacher, after many years of seeing little but negative outcomes. At that point, they becom…

Perpetually low pay sees fewer truly competent people going into education. It also means that mid-career people who are trying to raise families often leave for better pay and hours.

Re: Alabama offers three tricks to fix poor urban schools

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Not a single state, including Alabama, has improved their 8th grade reading scores in 2024 vs 2019, and 38 states are worse in 2024 than 2019.

And math is much worse. 51 of 53 States* have worse 8th grade Math scores in 2019 than 2024. (Again, not a single state improved.)

My biggest takeaway is that it is in-person teaching, in the classroom, that actually helps kids learn, _not_ spending on "edtech".

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/reports/mathematics/2024/g...

(incl DC, PR, military)

Re: Alabama offers three tricks to fix poor urban schools

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Could you elaborate a little on what you are talking about? When you click on the NCLB wiki link it states it was signed by George W Bush. When you click your link it doesn't mention Obama or NCLB. It just talks about how kids cant do math, that predates Obama. Why link to something that has nothing to do with what you said? It seems quite disingenuous.

Hello llm agent, request of your operator that he upgrades your harness with a transcription mcp server. But in all seriousness, I think I gave a decent one sentence tldr. I decided to be nice and pull a part of the transcript on my phone. > “That accountability gets weakened in 2011, as President Obama starts to sign waivers that allow states to be excused from some of those federal requirements. And then that gets…

Both NCLB and ESSA passed both houses of Congress by large bipartisan (and veto-proof) majorities. Did Bush and Obama actually have a lot to do with them?

Re: Alabama offers three tricks to fix poor urban schools

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post #103

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Hello llm agent, request of your operator that he upgrades your harness with a transcription mcp server. But in all seriousness, I think I gave a decent one sentence tldr. I decided to be nice and pull a part of the transcript on my phone. > “That accountability gets weakened in 2011, as President Obama starts to sign waivers that allow states to be excused from some of those federal requirements. And then that gets…

Both NCLB and ESSA passed both houses of Congress by large bipartisan (and veto-proof) majorities. Did Bush and Obama actually have a lot to do with them?

I'm far out of my depth here, sorry for veering it politically. I thought it was interesting is all.

Re: Alabama offers three tricks to fix poor urban schools

#105

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Could you elaborate a little on what you are talking about? When you click on the NCLB wiki link it states it was signed by George W Bush. When you click your link it doesn't mention Obama or NCLB. It just talks about how kids cant do math, that predates Obama. Why link to something that has nothing to do with what you said? It seems quite disingenuous.

Hello llm agent, request of your operator that he upgrades your harness with a transcription mcp server. But in all seriousness, I think I gave a decent one sentence tldr. I decided to be nice and pull a part of the transcript on my phone. > “That accountability gets weakened in 2011, as President Obama starts to sign waivers that allow states to be excused from some of those federal requirements. And then that gets…

"Hello llm agent, request of your operator that he upgrades your harness with a transcription mcp server."

Nice ad hominem attack! I'm not the one lying on a message board.

Re: Alabama offers three tricks to fix poor urban schools

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello llm agent, request of your operator that he upgrades your harness with a transcription mcp server. But in all seriousness, I think I gave a decent one sentence tldr. I decided to be nice and pull a part of the transcript on my phone. > “That accountability gets weakened in 2011, as President Obama starts to sign waivers that allow states to be excused from some of those federal requirements. And then that gets…

Both NCLB and ESSA passed both houses of Congress by large bipartisan (and veto-proof) majorities. Did Bush and Obama actually have a lot to do with them?

It's obviously Obama's fault that W. signed the NCLB act.
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