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Re: European Tech Alternatives

#101
post #4

we need european chip makers.

ASML is European and is arguably the most strategically important company in the entire semiconductor supply chain.

ASML Holding is dominating the chip technology with their machines. It's not the lack of invention or intellectual capability that holds Europe back from the digital industry, it's the lack of willing long term European invenstors. If you want to scale your digital tech startup in Europe the most viable way is to look to the US for investors.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#102
post #70

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" we’re just mourning the fall of the US ". Listen to Rubio's speech again. The EU is in a managed decline, and no number of migrants will change that.

Rubio is a mouthpiece for a regime that’s not qualified to discuss Europe, or even his very own US of A. All he meant in his speech is that his government has chosen isolation

Just look at the space industry. Europe doesn't even have a proper space port.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#103
post #96

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Doesn't have to be a different dimension, international waters or space would do.

Both those places are heavily government controlled. In fact international waters if you're not flagged and registered to a specific country, then it's open season for anyone to board and seize you.

I'm so mad that the bitcoin bro cruise ship never set sail. We missed out on some exciting drama.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#104
post #74
post #46

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You can sell products anywhere but you’re battling 27 different sets of rules and legislations. Look at how a burger shop becomes a continent wide franchise overnight and you’ll see how that’s impossible in the EU. We just lack the regulatory freedom and deep financial markets, access to credit, etc.

If you're selling software that needs to _battle_ 27 different rules, then you're doing something seriously wrong.

I don't know why this is held up as some insurmountable challenge: every US state has different laws, if you sell any software to solve business problems you'll be dealing with 50 different legal codes and regulations you have to support too.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#105
post #96

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Doesn't have to be a different dimension, international waters or space would do.

Both those places are heavily government controlled. In fact international waters if you're not flagged and registered to a specific country, then it's open season for anyone to board and seize you.

Which is something the US has demonstrated so clearly recently.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#106
post #64

I don’t understand why Mistral gets so little recognition. They consistently have a top model on benchmarks such as LiveBench and their models are open source. Hugging Face is French, Black Forrest Labs (Stable Diffusion) is German, Weaviate is Dutch, Hetzner for IaasS. There’s AI here. Maybe hardware production is the bigger problem?

Mistral Vibe is cheap for what you get - I haven't run into limits yet, and you can use the same API key for the CLI for their API to run Codestral, Mistral large, etc. Le Chat is great as well, especially research mode. Afaik their models are running on Cerebras so you are never waiting for a response.

Obviously Opus and Codex are better for coding, but I dont really use it much to generate actual code so I don't think I'm missing much.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#107
I briefly went thought the list - a lot of hosted systems (probably kubernetes underneath etc). This is not unique or anything.

The list is quite sus ;) did you know that cockroachdb is a German company? :) it’s in the list. And this is like 3rd company in the category that I was checking

https://eutechmap.com/company/cockroachdb

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On more sad note.

Europe still loves their old money, (hidden) class system and deeply entrenched bureaucracy way too much to allow some plebs to get rich that quickly.

European way of doing things to me feels like fundamentally incompatible with high pace way of doing things in software area.

Personally, I don’t believe that anything significant can come up from places other than US or China. About 10 years ago Russians were doing a lot of “own” stuff (clickhouse comes to mind first), but I suspect that isolation and brain drain will eventually capture them.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#108
post #4

we need european chip makers.

ASML is European and is arguably the most strategically important company in the entire semiconductor supply chain.

ASML is not a chip maker, it is a chip-maker maker. Still important though.

Europe should request a discount for ASML machines in a EU factory.

Re: European Tech Alternatives

#109

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Such an idea never made any real sense, and never will until you can figure out how to move IT infrastructure into a separate dimension where governments have no authority. Those servers have to sit somewhere.

Doesn't have to be a different dimension, international waters or space would do.

Aside from the counterpoints made by the other responders, this still won't work: you need a physical connection to those servers, and you can't just WiFi to servers thousands of kilometers away. So the servers need to be in another dimension, so you can access them without government interference.
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