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US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by LAC-Tech »

perching_aix wrote: post #95
LAC-Tech wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument has always struck me as ridiculous. You think if only the Weimar Republic had had Hate Speech laws everything would have been fine?

Right, I guess the people there just magically all woke up one day hating the jews and voting in Hitler. Crazy how that happens. Why do political factions even spend money on campaigning? Those silly geese.

Wait, your operating theory on why the NSDAP became popular is because they... tricked everyone into hating jews?

You are not only entirely misunderstanding why the NSDAP appealed to people, you're also completely misunderstanding what post WWI Germany was - a republic hastily brought about with little care so that Woodrow Wilson would offer Germany peace based on his 14 points (he didn't). It was doomed to fail from the very beginning. If not the NSDAP it would have been some other extremists.

The idea that freedom of speech was what led to its downfall does not stand up to even the smallest scrutiny. Or the idea that an aged, pacified 2026 Germany would immediately return to 1930s Nazism if they had free speech is even more ludicrous.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by LAC-Tech »

ReflectedImage wrote: post #47

So going forward all countries will be providing citizens of other countries free access to the internet whilst censoring their own citizens?

Better than the alternative where they don't, I suppose. Kind of like how for some political things you have to use yandex to search because US search companies suppress the results.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by Am4TIfIsER0ppos »

trelane wrote: post #76
engineer_22 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's MITM?

Man In The Middle. They're saying that the US is intercepting the traffic.

What do you think cloudflare is? This is just them coming out with it now.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by [deleted] »

jasonvorhe wrote: post #98
nomilk wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might do that too , but access to information is just so utterly critical, and exponentially moreso in circumstances where government brutally cracks down on it, as we saw in Egypt during the Arab Spring and we're seeing in Iran presently.

Then again, Egypt was definitely driven by Western agitators, as was the case Iran recently. Iran probably got Russian tech to trace starlink users during the blackout which put a target on many Western assets in Iran. I'm not saying the Iran government didn't also kill and torture independent actors nor that I support state violence (against its citizens, in this case). Just saying that any government will use viole…

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

#105

Post by Hikikomori »

perching_aix wrote: post #95
LAC-Tech wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument has always struck me as ridiculous. You think if only the Weimar Republic had had Hate Speech laws everything would have been fine?

Right, I guess the people there just magically all woke up one day hating the jews and voting in Hitler. Crazy how that happens. Why do political factions even spend money on campaigning? Those silly geese.

Well they kinda did,long before the Nazis and der Sturmer put a torch on it.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by Hikikomori »

Aloisius wrote: post #80
csrse wrote: post #70

Fantastic! Now EU just needs to setup freedomgov.eu that bounces off freedom.gov so americans also can browse whatever with no restrictions.

What restrictions do Americans have now that would make that useful?

Facts on .gov websites.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by reconnecting »

nomilk wrote: post #100
reconnecting wrote: post #99

Last copy if from 2005 (2) according to the Web Archive. I like vote from 1998, if Internet Remain Tax Free (3). 1. https://web.archive.org/web/20050209024923/http://freedom.go... 2. https://web.archive.org/web/19981201060504/http://freedom.go...

And before that, looks like the domain was used to give updates from the House Majority Leader (e.g. things like voting info, social security updates, legislative changes, tax info etc).

Gov't Not Ready For Y2K!

https://web.archive.org/web/19990423190847/http://www.freedo...

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by carlm42 »

mlh496 wrote: post #64

Sad that western Europe is pushing so hard for limits to free speech & privacy. I'm not surprised given their history, but it's sad nonetheless.

Sad that the United States are pushing so hard to encourage the propagation of propaganda & lies. I'm not surprised given their history, but it's sad nonetheless.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by MiiMe19 »

tracker1 wrote: post #62

Until you have to validate your id/age to continue... Seriously though... we have one segment undermining foreign lockdowns while the same and other segments are literally doing the same here.

its like we have different smaller governments that can pass their own laws inside of one larger government or something
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