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Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

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Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#101
post #97

YES this hits the nail on something I've been trying to express for some time now. Semantic ablation: love it, going to use that a lot not now when arguing why someone's ChatGPT-washed email sucks. Semantic ablation is also why I'm doubtful of everyone proclaiming that Opus 4 would be AGI if we just gave it the right agent harness and let all the agents run free on the web. In reality they would distill it to a meani…

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Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#102
> The AI identifies unconventional metaphors or visceral imagery as "noise" because they deviate from the training set's mean.

That's certainly a take. In the translation industry (the primogenitor and driver for much of the architecture and theory of LLMs) they're known for making extremely unconventional choices to such a degree that it actively degrades the quality of translation.

Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#103
post #3

This is a good statement of what I suspect many of us have found when rejecting the rewriting advice of AIs. The "pointiness" of prose gets worn away, until it doesn't say much. Everything is softened. The distinctiveness of the human voice is converted into blandness. The AI even says its preferred rephrasing is "polished" - a term which specifically means the jaggedness has been removed. But it's the jagged edges,…

I think it’s essential to realize that AI is a tool for mainstream tasks like composing a standard email and not for the edges.

The edges are where interesting stuff happens. The boring part can be made more efficient. I don’t need to type boring emails, people who can’t articulate well will be elevated.

It’s the efficient popularization of the boring stuff. Not much else.

Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#104
post #28

Nonsense. I’ve written bland prose for a story and AI made it much better by revising it with a prompt such as this: “Make the vocabulary and grammar more sophisticated and add in interesting metaphors. Rewrite it in the style of a successful literary author.” Etc.

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My point is simply that the tell-tale marks of LLM prose can be remediated through prompts.

I have a very large ‘default prompt’ that explicitly deals with the more obnoxious grammatical structures emblematic of LLMs.

I would wager I deal with more amateurishly created AI slop on a doily basis than you do. (Legal field, where everyone is churning out LLM-written briefs.) Most of it is instantly recognizable. And, all of it can be fixed with more careful prompt-engineering.

If you think you can spot well-crafted LLM prose generated by someone proficient at the craft of prompt-engineering by, to use an analogy to the early days of image creation, counting how many fingers the hand has, you’re way behind.

Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#105
post #38
post #6

I'd like to see some concrete examples that illustrate this - as it stands this feels like an opinion piece that doesn't attempt to back up its claims. (Not necessarily disagreeing with those claims, but I'd like to see a more robust exploration of them.)

Have you not seen it any time you put any substantial bit of your own writing through an LLM, for advice? I disagree pretty strongly with most of what an LLM suggests by way of rewriting. They're absolutely appalling writers. If you're looking for something beyond corporate safespeak or stylistic pastiche, they drain the blood out of everything. The skin of their prose lacks the luminous translucency, the subsurface…

> If you're looking for something beyond corporate safespeak

AI has been great for removing this stress. "Tell Joe no f'n way" in a professional tone and I can move on with my day.

Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#107
post #103
post #3

This is a good statement of what I suspect many of us have found when rejecting the rewriting advice of AIs. The "pointiness" of prose gets worn away, until it doesn't say much. Everything is softened. The distinctiveness of the human voice is converted into blandness. The AI even says its preferred rephrasing is "polished" - a term which specifically means the jaggedness has been removed. But it's the jagged edges,…

I think it’s essential to realize that AI is a tool for mainstream tasks like composing a standard email and not for the edges. The edges are where interesting stuff happens. The boring part can be made more efficient. I don’t need to type boring emails, people who can’t articulate well will be elevated. It’s the efficient popularization of the boring stuff. Not much else.

It contributes to making “standard” emails boring. I rather enjoy reading emails in each sender’s original voice. People who can’t articulate well aren’t elevated, instead they are perceived to be sending bland slop if they use LLMs to conceal that they can’t express themselves well.

Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#108
The article itself reads as an AI generated output, complete with classic Not Just X … Y hallmarks from forever ago, 100% on pangram's low false positive detector. I'm not sure if it's some experiment on their readerbase or what. pangram result: https://www.pangram.com/history/02bead1c-c36e-461b-8fa7-8699...

So many AI generated AI bashing articles lately. I wrote a post complaining about running into these, and asking people who've sent me these AI articles multiple of them came from HN. https://lunnova.dev/articles/ai-bashing-ai-slop/

Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#109
post #6

I'd like to see some concrete examples that illustrate this - as it stands this feels like an opinion piece that doesn't attempt to back up its claims. (Not necessarily disagreeing with those claims, but I'd like to see a more robust exploration of them.)

Look through my comment history at all the posts where I complain the author might have had something interesting to say but it's been erased by the LLM and you can no longer tell what the author cared about because the entire post is a an oversold monotone advertising voice.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46583410#46584336

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46605716#46609480

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46617456#46619136

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46658345#46662218

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46630869#46663276

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46656759#46663322

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46661936#46663362

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46748077#46749699

Re: Semantic ablation: Why AI writing is generic and boring

#110
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not?

Because even though at work it looks like you’re tasked with creating use values, you’re only there as long as the use values you create can be exchanged in the market for a profit. So every humane drive to genuinely improve your work will clash with the external conditions of your existence within that setting. You’re not there to serve people, create beautiful things, solve problems, nu-uh. You’re there to keep cap…

Unless you work in the public sector, non-profit or charity.
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