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Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by pants2 »

xvxvx wrote: post #5

Related: A researcher for Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, warned executives at the tech giant that there may be upward of 500,000 cases of sexual exploitation of minors per day on the social media platforms. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/meta-researcher-warned... Who needs the dark web when Meta exists and is protected by the US government? Edit: downvotes? Lol

That headline seems like a stretch after reading the article (Fox after all)

> sexually inappropriate messages were sent to "~500k victims per DAY in English markets only."

This sounds like a total count of unsolicited sexual messages sent to all users every day.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by jacquesm »

So, I had a friend. Had because he's dead. He did this work for a decade and a half and then couldn't deal with it anymore. In that time he put countless assholes behind bars. At some point he stopped responding to my emails so I called the unit and they were absolutely devastated, this guy was the backbone of their operation, the one with by far the most computer experience of all of them. RIP Ronald.

It is very hard to imagine what the life of someone on the frontline is like, the ones that are really battling online scum. So take that 'think of the children' thing and realize that there are people who really do think of the children and it is one of the hardest jobs on the planet.

Quote from TFA:

"The BBC asked Facebook why it couldn't use its facial recognition technology to assist the hunt for Lucy. It responded: "To protect user privacy, it's important that we follow the appropriate legal process, but we work to support law enforcement as much as we can."

So, privacy matters to FB when it is to protect the abusers of children. How low can you go...

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by rectang »

roysting wrote: post #91
jiqiren wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many of these sex offenders bought this couch and live close to this brick factory in homes built in that time period?

I think what is confusing is likely that the investigators/detectives were probably trying to make sure that the girl was actually in the house where the sex offender was registered or technically living, and not maybe kept somewhere else. A lot of detective work is building the case, but also confirming what you believe is actually true and you need the evidence to also request the warrant on factual grounds. They c…

> Frankly, I hope the mother was also charged.

Would you want her charged if she didn't even know?

There is nothing in the article suggesting that the mother conspired with her boyfriend, or that she even knew he was a sex offender. I can imagine a scenario where the mother blames herself for not knowing and is utterly destroyed by misplaced guilt. Who knows what actually happened? The article wasn't about that.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by apt-apt-apt-apt »

jalapenos wrote: post #58

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What about cases where we get the wrong guy? The system messes up sometimes, people can get framed, etc.

Doing eye for an eye here, say putting a broom somewhere cough for 6 years, only to find out he's innocent would be pretty bad.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by zdragnar »

MisterTea wrote: post #98
phire wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sex offender registries are just registries. They only work if someone decides to actually do a query. It might prevent them from getting a childcare job, but it doesn't really prevent them from accessing children at all. The registers are also massively bloated, some people get put on them for nothing more than public urination. The only sex offenders who actually get regular checks that might identify this type of…

Right but I'll be honest, I've never thought about looking up the people I've dated in the past. No one really talked about it when I was younger. I don't remember my mother telling me to do criminal background checks on people I'm seeing. Happened to me. Went out with somebody who turned out to be a serial shop lifter who operated with a small gang of other shop lifters. Everything looked fine up front until they di…

Back when my wife and I were renting, we only found out our landlord was on the list because his parole officer stopped by and asked if he'd informed us as he was legally required to do.

We moved out rather quickly after that. If we were in a situation where we had to rent again, and went with an individual renting their own house rather than a company, checking out the registry is on the checklist of things to do.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by smotched »

dotancohen wrote: post #60
puttycat wrote: post #3

> They contacted Facebook, which at the time dominated the social media landscape, asking for help scouring uploaded family photos - to see if Lucy was in any of them. But Facebook, despite having facial recognition technology, said it "did not have the tools" to help. Willing to bet my life savings that they are able to do exactly this when the goal is to create shadow profiles or maximize some metric.

The fine article actually ends with this text: > The BBC asked Facebook why it couldn't use its facial recognition technology to assist the hunt for Lucy. It responded: "To protect user privacy, it's important that we follow the appropriate legal process, but we work to support law enforcement as much as we can."

just remember even the patriot act started with good intentions, to get justice.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by itishappy »

Aurornis wrote: post #54
puttycat wrote: post #3

> They contacted Facebook, which at the time dominated the social media landscape, asking for help scouring uploaded family photos - to see if Lucy was in any of them. But Facebook, despite having facial recognition technology, said it "did not have the tools" to help. Willing to bet my life savings that they are able to do exactly this when the goal is to create shadow profiles or maximize some metric.

Facebook shut down their facial recognition program in 2021 and deleted the data in response to public frustrations. It’s really sad now to see people getting angry at Facebook not having facial recognition technology.

The two views aren't necessarily in conflict. I don't appreciate Facebook's use of facial recognition technology, but they built it. I'm extremely disappointed they proceeded to use this technology to influence elections while fighting against making the data available to law enforcement. I understand this may not have been intentional on their part, but the result is the same, and I was not at all surprised by it.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by [deleted] »

Aurornis wrote: post #30

Am I reading this correctly that the address where they found the child was where her mother’s boyfriend was living? > "So we narrowed it down to [this] one address… and started the process of confirming who was living there through state records, driver's licence… information on schools," says Squire. > The team realised that in the household with Lucy was her mother's boyfriend - a convicted sex offender. There’s a…

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Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by ndiddy »

phire wrote: post #49
Aurornis wrote: post #30

Am I reading this correctly that the address where they found the child was where her mother’s boyfriend was living? > "So we narrowed it down to [this] one address… and started the process of confirming who was living there through state records, driver's licence… information on schools," says Squire. > The team realised that in the household with Lucy was her mother's boyfriend - a convicted sex offender. There’s a…

Sex offender registries are just registries. They only work if someone decides to actually do a query. It might prevent them from getting a childcare job, but it doesn't really prevent them from accessing children at all. The registers are also massively bloated, some people get put on them for nothing more than public urination. The only sex offenders who actually get regular checks that might identify this type of…

The whole thing about people getting put on the sex offender registry for public urination is a myth and there's no verifiable cases of it happening. There are two cases that are relatively close. The first is James Birch, who pled guilty to indecent exposure for peeing on a Taco Bell because he was representing himself and didn't understand that meant he'd have to register as a sex offender. He realized his mistake and the court let him undo the plea and the charges were dropped. The second is Juan Matamoros, a meth dealer from Florida who claimed in the mid-2000s that the reason why he got put on the Massachusetts sex offender registry in the 80s was public urination. Due to the age of the case and Massachusetts privacy laws the court records aren't publicly available and his lawyer from the 80s responded to a request for interview about the case with "no judge I am aware of would allow someone to be put on the sex offender registry for peeing in public".

If anyone tells you that's why they're on the sex offender registry, it's extremely likely they're lying about it and you should really look them up.

Re: Dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse

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Post by zdragnar »

itishappy wrote: post #88
nebezb wrote: post #20

I’ve spent just a teeny bit of time helping international ICE investigators (not that one; internet child exploitation) postpone PTSD with technology. It seems like after two years of their job, they’re going to have a mental break. So postponing is all you can really do. It’s disheartening how underfunded these agencies are compared to, what feels like at least, the severity of the crimes they’re up against. These f…

Another comment mentioned ICE as well, so I've been looking into it, and imagine my surprise to learn that ICE (yes that one) has been working in this space since since the Obama admin. Huh. https://www.ice.gov/careers/hero https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_for_Victims_of_Traffic...

Coyotes are frequently part of criminal organizations. They take advantage of people in any and every way that they can. Slavery, sexual and otherwise, is not at all an uncommon result of being brought into the country under the radar, so to speak.
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