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Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Post by mschulze »

dpkirchner wrote: post #82
skerit wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does Claude-Code do different that you still prefer it? I'm so in love with OpenCode, I just can't go back. It's such a nicer way of working. I even love the more advanced TUI

Claude Code's handling of multiple choice questions is awfully nice (it uses an interactive interface to let you use arrows to select answers, and supports multiple answers). I haven't seen opencode do that yet, although I don't know if that's just a model integration issue -- I've only tried with GLM 4.7, GPT 5.1 Codex Mini, and GPT 5.2 Codex.

Opencode also has that feature, I've seen it multiple times in the last days (mostly using Opus 4.5/4.6/Gemini 3)

Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Post by cowboylowrez »

"Boris Cherny" seems pretty good at this enshittification stuff. Think about it, normal coders would consider having a config like show details or don't, you know, a developers preference but no this guy wants you to control-o all the time, read the article its right there what this guy says:

" A GitHub issue on the subject drew a response from Boris Cherny, creator and head of Claude Code at Anthropic, that "this isn't a vibe coding feature, it's a way to simplify the UI so you can focus on what matters, diffs and bash/mcp outputs." He suggested that developers "try it out for a few days" and said that Anthropic's own developers "appreciated the reduced noise.""

Seriously man, whatever happened to configs that you can set once. They obviously realise that people want it with the control-o but why make them do this over and over without a way to just config it, or whatever the cli does like maybe:

./clod-code -v

or something. Man I dislike these AI bros so much, there always about "your personal preferences are wrong" but you know they are lying through their smirking teeth they want you to burn tokens so the earth's inhabitability can die a few minutes earlier.

Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Post by adastra22 »

groundzeros2015 wrote: post #73
adastra22 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually it works the other way. With multiple agents they can often correct each others mistaken assumptions. Part of the value of this approach is precisely that you do get better results with fewer hallucinated assumptions. Still makes this change from Anthropic stupid.

Nonsense. If you have 16 binary decisions that’s 64k possible paths.

These are not independent samplings.

Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

#104

Post by ldng »

JeremyNT wrote: post #99
g947o wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of those wild experiments are running on a "real", existing codebase that is more than 6 months old. The thing they don't talk about is that nobody outside these AI companies wants to vibe code with a 10 year old codebase with 2000 enterprise customers. As you as you start to work with a codebase that you care about and need to seriously maintain, you'll see what a mess these agents make.

I feel like you could have correctly stated this a few months ago, but the way this is "solved" is by multiple agents that babysit each other and review their output - it's unreasonably effective. You can get extremely good results assuming your spec is actually correct (and you're willing to chew through massive quantities of tokens / wait long enough).

And unreasonably expensive unless you are Big Corp. Die startups, die. Welcome to our Cyberpunk overlords.

Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Post by dboreham »

groundzeros2015 wrote: post #68
JPKab wrote: post #57

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I work at a company with approximately $1 million in revenue per engineer and multiple 10+ year old codebases. We use agents very aggressively, combined with beads, tons of tests, etc. You treat them like any developer, and review the code in PRs, provide feedback, have the agents act, and merge when it's good. We have gained tremendous velocity and have been able to tackle far more out of the backlog that we'd been…

Why are you using experience and authoritative framing about a technology we’ve been using for less than 6 months?

If you hired a person six months ago and in that time they'd produced a ton of useful code for your product, wouldn't you say with authoritative framing that their hiring was a good decision?

Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Post by adastra22 »

rco8786 wrote: post #64
adastra22 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually it works the other way. With multiple agents they can often correct each others mistaken assumptions. Part of the value of this approach is precisely that you do get better results with fewer hallucinated assumptions. Still makes this change from Anthropic stupid.

The corrective agent has the exact same percentage chance at making the mistake. "Correcting" an assumption that was previously correct into an incorrect one. If a singular agent has a 1% chance of making an incorrect assumption, then 10 agents have that same 1% chance in aggregate.

You are assuming statistical independence, which is explicitly not correct here. There is also an error in your analysis - what matters is whether they make the same wrong assumption. That is far less likely, and becomes exponentially unlikely with increasing trials.

I can attest that it works well in practice, and my organization is already deploying this technique internally.

Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Post by nullbio »

dhagz wrote: post #83
embedding-shape wrote: post #23

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Words have lost all meaning. "Verbose" no longer means "containing more words than necessary" but instead "Bit more than usual". "Fast" no longer mean "characterized by quick motion, operation, or effect" but instead depends on the company, some of them use slightly different way, but same "speed", but it's called "fast mode". It's just a whole new world where words suddenly mean something completely different, and y…

You thought "fast mode" was describing the agent? No no no, it's describing your spend, since it only uses "extra usage."

Out of principle I'm never paying them a cent for "fast mode". I've already started using Codex anyway, will probably just cancel my sub since I've found I actually haven't needed CC at all since making the switch.

Re: Anthropic tries to hide Claude's AI actions. Devs hate it

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Post by groundzeros2015 »

adastra22 wrote: post #103
groundzeros2015 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nonsense. If you have 16 binary decisions that’s 64k possible paths.

These are not independent samplings.

Indeed. Doesn’t that make it worse? Prior decisions will bring up path dependent options ensuring they aren’t even close to the same path.
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