It's commodore 64 ish. I like it
More like Commodore 46.
LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
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Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
We had web browsers, kinda, in that we'd call up BBSes, and use ansi for menus and such. My Vic20 could do this, and a C64 easily, really it was just graphics that were wanting. I was sending electronic messages around the world via FidoNet and PunterNet, downloaded software, was on forums, and that all on BBSes. When I think of the web of old, it's the actual information I love. And a terminal connected to a bbs cou…
> graphics that were wanting Prodigy established a (limited) graphical online service in 1988.
I'm imagining that this is the work of the Boy Genuis
Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
#103Serious question; Why 6502?
Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember using the web on 25mhz computers. It ran about as fast as it does today with a couple ghz. Our internet was a lot slower than as well.
> I remember using the web on 25mhz computers. It ran about as fast as it does today with a couple ghz. I know it’s a meme on HN to complain that modern websites are slow, but this is a perfect example of how completely distorted views of the past can get. No, browsing the web in the early 90s was slooow . Even simple web pages took a long time to load. As you said, internet connections were very slow too. I remember…
My clim is that the modern web is bloated.
I had t3 connections for most of my browsing which was faster than ethernet of the day - even by todays standards that isn't too bad. I avoided dialup if I could because it was slow. Even isdn was okay speeds.
Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember using the web on 25mhz computers. It ran about as fast as it does today with a couple ghz. Our internet was a lot slower than as well.
> I remember using the web on 25mhz computers. It ran about as fast as it does today with a couple ghz. I know it’s a meme on HN to complain that modern websites are slow, but this is a perfect example of how completely distorted views of the past can get. No, browsing the web in the early 90s was slooow . Even simple web pages took a long time to load. As you said, internet connections were very slow too. I remember…
It's not an accurate recollection at all. In 1990 a couple of us 12 year olds snuck into the university library to use the web to look at the Marathon website. It took 5 minutes to load some trivially-sized gifs and a tiny amount of HTML. They had a pretty decent connection for the day.
Web pages took a minute to load, now we're optimising them for instant response.
Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I remember using the web on 25mhz computers. It ran about as fast as it does today with a couple ghz. I know it’s a meme on HN to complain that modern websites are slow, but this is a perfect example of how completely distorted views of the past can get. No, browsing the web in the early 90s was slooow . Even simple web pages took a long time to load. As you said, internet connections were very slow too. I remember…
Yeah slow? Try using a 2400baud modem, that was slow
I started on 300baud - but never accessed the internet from that so I won't count it in this discussion.
Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I remember using the web on 25mhz computers. It ran about as fast as it does today with a couple ghz. I know it’s a meme on HN to complain that modern websites are slow, but this is a perfect example of how completely distorted views of the past can get. No, browsing the web in the early 90s was slooow . Even simple web pages took a long time to load. As you said, internet connections were very slow too. I remember…
My clim is that the modern web is bloated. I had t3 connections for most of my browsing which was faster than ethernet of the day - even by todays standards that isn't too bad. I avoided dialup if I could because it was slow. Even isdn was okay speeds.
> My clim is that the modern web is bloated.
Your claim that I responded to was that web browsers were just as fast on 25MHz CPUs.
> I had t3 connections for most of my browsing which was faster than ethernet of the day - even by todays standards that isn't too bad.
T3 speeds are very slow in today's terms. Even my cell phone does a couple orders of magnitude better from where I'm sitting.
There are a lot of weird claims going on in your posts. I think it's a lot of nostalgia coloring your views of how fast things were in the past.
Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
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> Only thing that killed web for old computers is JAVASCRIPT. JavaScript is innocent. The people writing humongous apps with it are the ones to blame. And memory footprint. A 16 MB machine wouldn’t be able to hold the icons an average web app uses today.
Netscape was talking about making the Web an app platform to replace Microsoft Windows even way back then. The world we're living in today is exactly what they envisioned.
Electron wouldn’t be possible back then.
Re: LT6502: A 6502-based homebrew laptop
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It crashed a lot more, the fonts (and screens) were uglier, and Javascript was a lot slower. The good thing was that there was very little Javascript.
I cannot recall crashes being a problem.
I remember Netscape Navigator crashing, taking Solaris down with it. I could only imagine what it was like on Windows 9x. I don't want to imagine what Windows 3.x users endured. Windows 3.x was the OS where people saved early and saved often, since the lack of proper memory protection meant that a bad application (or worse, a bad driver) could BSOD the system at any time.