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Re: Vim 9.2

#101

Post by gjkliewer »

LexiMax wrote: post #91
actinium226 wrote: post #23

But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Only joking of course, actually quite refreshing to see a new version announcement of something this major without any AI nonsense.

> But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Obviously vim doesn't need AI, but one feature I really wish vim had was native support for multiple cursors. It's the feature that lured me away to Sublime Text in the first place many years ago, and it's a pre-requisite for pretty much every editor I use these days, from VSCode to Zed. There are plugins, but multicursor is such a powerful force-multiplier tha…

Multi cursor is on the neovim roadmap https://neovim.io/roadmap/

Re: Vim 9.2

#102

Post by nujabe »

jdsnape wrote: post #64
srik wrote: post #35

> For over 30 years, Vim has been "Charityware," supporting children in Kibaale, Uganda. Following the passing of Bram Moolenaar, the ICCF Holland foundation was dissolved […] and its remaining funds were transferred to ensure continued support for the Kibaale project. […] Vim remains Charityware. We encourage users to continue supporting the needy children in Uganda through this new transition. I settled on vim for…

I used to work for a large enterprise, and tried to get vim ‘approved’ for internal use. I remember this charityware clause caused our legal department to get tied up in all sorts of arguments about how we could be opening ourselves to liability if we used it without donating. It was my first lesson in navigating large company processes. In the end I just kept quiet about the fact that it ships in all the Linux packa…

Curious why you tried to get it approved in the first place if it comes with Linux?

Re: Vim 9.2

#103

Post by WhyNotHugo »

LexiMax wrote: post #91
actinium226 wrote: post #23

But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Only joking of course, actually quite refreshing to see a new version announcement of something this major without any AI nonsense.

> But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Obviously vim doesn't need AI, but one feature I really wish vim had was native support for multiple cursors. It's the feature that lured me away to Sublime Text in the first place many years ago, and it's a pre-requisite for pretty much every editor I use these days, from VSCode to Zed. There are plugins, but multicursor is such a powerful force-multiplier tha…

Funny, I used multiple cursor a lot back when I used Sublime Text, but stopped needing them when I switched to Vim.

Re: Vim 9.2

#104

Post by cbsks »

jdsnape wrote: post #64
srik wrote: post #35

> For over 30 years, Vim has been "Charityware," supporting children in Kibaale, Uganda. Following the passing of Bram Moolenaar, the ICCF Holland foundation was dissolved […] and its remaining funds were transferred to ensure continued support for the Kibaale project. […] Vim remains Charityware. We encourage users to continue supporting the needy children in Uganda through this new transition. I settled on vim for…

I used to work for a large enterprise, and tried to get vim ‘approved’ for internal use. I remember this charityware clause caused our legal department to get tied up in all sorts of arguments about how we could be opening ourselves to liability if we used it without donating. It was my first lesson in navigating large company processes. In the end I just kept quiet about the fact that it ships in all the Linux packa…

“Let’s spend thousands of dollars on lawyers to avoid donating to a good cause”. Large corporations can be so ridiculous.

Re: Vim 9.2

#106

Post by _0xdd »

k3vinw wrote: post #67

> The MS-Windows GUI now supports native dark mode for the menu and title bars, along with improved fullscreen support and higher-quality toolbar icons. Congratulations on the new release! Looking forward to applying these awesome improvements.

Couldn't have come at a better time for those who are affected by their IT departments removing access to Notepad++.

Re: Vim 9.2

#107

Post by ivanjermakov »

LexiMax wrote: post #91
actinium226 wrote: post #23

But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Only joking of course, actually quite refreshing to see a new version announcement of something this major without any AI nonsense.

> But where are the AI features?? Gonna get left behind! Obviously vim doesn't need AI, but one feature I really wish vim had was native support for multiple cursors. It's the feature that lured me away to Sublime Text in the first place many years ago, and it's a pre-requisite for pretty much every editor I use these days, from VSCode to Zed. There are plugins, but multicursor is such a powerful force-multiplier tha…

There are plenty of ways to achieve workflows that can be done witg multiple cursors even in plain Vim: macros, :norm, visual blocks, :s, etc.

Re: Vim 9.2

#108

Post by joe_mamba »

cbsks wrote: post #104
jdsnape wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work for a large enterprise, and tried to get vim ‘approved’ for internal use. I remember this charityware clause caused our legal department to get tied up in all sorts of arguments about how we could be opening ourselves to liability if we used it without donating. It was my first lesson in navigating large company processes. In the end I just kept quiet about the fact that it ships in all the Linux packa…

“Let’s spend thousands of dollars on lawyers to avoid donating to a good cause”. Large corporations can be so ridiculous.

Big companies can be incredibly penny wise and pound foolish because their beancounters make them obsess over the wrong metrics. My current company has spent the last year cost cutting every single way to stay afloat and now you need a chain of approvals up the management ladder with detailed explanation for every paperclip you want purchase.

I can't prove it, but I am willing to bet my entire salary that the costs of all the new extra bureaucratic overhead introduced for small purchases, nullified or even exceeded all their savings, when the remaining engineers and managers paid six figures have to spend more of their time writing, reviewing and approving paperclip orders instead of you know, running the company, fulfilling customer demands and innovating.

I'm pretty new to this, but I have a feeling these are all the signs of a company it's worth jumping ship from ASAP as there's no chance of things improving back from this. Sure, AMD managed to turn the ship around with cost cutting, but our CEO is not Lisa Su, he's a boomer who cuts where the clueless $BIG_4 consultants tell him to cut, and big_4 doesn't care about innovation or the company being relevant in 10 years, they care about showing some immediate results/positive cash to justify their outrageous rates.

Re: Vim 9.2

#109

Post by dotancohen »

sorentwo wrote: post #83
era86 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tmux + vim + Claude Code

Nearly this, but using ghostty instead of tmux. You don’t get the remote connection aspect of tmux, but for splitting/zooming/preserving windows it is fantastic. The best part is you can configure natural shortcuts rather than using a leader for everything.

As a tmux user, sell me on ghostty. I hate the leader key, especially in VIM.

Re: Vim 9.2

#110

Post by sobjornstad »

nujabe wrote: post #102
jdsnape wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work for a large enterprise, and tried to get vim ‘approved’ for internal use. I remember this charityware clause caused our legal department to get tied up in all sorts of arguments about how we could be opening ourselves to liability if we used it without donating. It was my first lesson in navigating large company processes. In the end I just kept quiet about the fact that it ships in all the Linux packa…

Curious why you tried to get it approved in the first place if it comes with Linux?

I worked at a place like this and we had a software registry, where if you had installed something and it wasn't on the registry somebody would start sending you nasty emails. This kind of thing would happen all the time: maybe the Linux machines weren't in the scans, or anything that came with the OS was whitelisted.

But if you wanted to install it separately on a computer that didn't have it already, then you'd need to get it “approved.”

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