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Re: YouTube as Storage

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I wonder if anyone has ever compiled a list of channels with abnormally large numbers of videos? For example this guy has over 14,000: https://www.youtube.com/@lylehsaxon

There is a channel with 2 million videos: https://www.youtube.com/@RoelVandePaar/videos One with 4 million videos: https://www.youtube.com/@NameLook

I guess I should have mentioned I wasn't looking for automated/AI-generated videos.

Re: YouTube as Storage

#104

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The framing here is really weird. The volume of videos increasing isn't 'growth.' Videos are inventory for Youtube. They're only good when people (without adblocks!) actually watch them.

Growth in this context is that there are a larger volume of videos each year. So each year a single video is exponentially a smaller and smaller percentage of the total.

Yeah and the math doesn't check out.

For example, if in year N youtube has f(N) new video. Let assume f(N) = cN^2. It's a crazy rate of growth. It's far better than the real world Youtube, which grew rather linearly.

But the rate of "videos that are older than 5 years" is still faster than that, because it would be cubic instead of quadratic. Unless the it's really exponential (it isn't), "videos that are older than 5 years" will always surpass "new videos this year" eventually.

Re: YouTube as Storage

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One day, it will matter. Not even Google can escape the consequences of infinite growth. Kryder's Law is over. We cannot rely on storage getting cheaper faster than we can fill it, and orgs cannot rely on being able to extract more value from data than it costs to store it. Every other org knows this already. The only difference with Google is that they have used their ad cash generator to postpone their reality chec…

You can see how Google rolls with how they deleted old Gmail accounts - years of notice, lots of warnings, etc. They finally started deletions recently, and I haven't heard a whimper from anyone (yet).

Dropbox seem to be doing the same thing. After years of whining about my 2TB above limit I recently received a mail with a deadline to delete my files or they will.

Re: YouTube as Storage

#106

Has anyone got an example how such a video looks like? Really curious. Reminds me of the Soviet Arvid card that could store 2 GB on an E-180 VHS tape. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArVid

Mostly just noise. This is an example data video from the creator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIRXaQWjiA8

(YouTube video for this project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l03Os5uwWmk)

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#107

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The problem is that some content creators have already passed away (and others will pass away by then), and their videos will likely be deleted forever.

That may be, but I assume for videos that had some viewership base, there may be a consideration. E. g. if a video was viewed 20 million times, it may be worth more than one that was viewed only 5 times.

>videos that had some viewership base, there may be a consideration

Those would be the worst of the lot regarding how valuable they are historically for example. Engaging BS content...

Re: YouTube as Storage

#108

Wot no steganography? Come on pretty please with an invisible cherry on top! :-) Here to get you started: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11042-023-14844-w

That's harder to sneak through video compression artifacts.

Re: YouTube as Storage

#109

I don't get how it works. > Encoding: Files are chunked, encoded with fountain codes, and embedded into video frames Wouldn't YouTube just compress/re-encode your video and ruin your data (assuming you want bit-by-bit accurate recovery)? If you have some redundancy to counter this, wouldn't it be super inefficient? (Admittedly, I've never heard of "fountain codes", which is probably crucial to understanding how it wo…

Hey there, Brandon here (developer). I've uploaded an explanation video here, which might be useful to watch :D

https://youtu.be/l03Os5uwWmk?si=nJDwz4s7_E4WFOwC

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