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"Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

#101
The only evidence provided for any of the videos being fake is that one house they visited had legal residents renting the property. But it's not fake that many London neighborhoods like Earl's Court provide 65% of their social housing to people born outside the UK, of whom 40% are in employment (source: migrationfacts.com), so one error doesn't mean much. Thus it's unclear to me (never having seen any of the videos) whether the misinformation was on TikTok or in this article.

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#102
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Monetary incentives are the foundations of Capitalism. There are only two ways that ethics might get in the way of their profits. The first is government regulation. We saw lots of deregulation of oversight over the ten years before the 2008 financial crisis. None of the ethically compromised C-suite folks went to jail for their behavior because it was suddenly not a crime. Sometimes you have regulation, but you don'…

> Sometimes you have regulation, but you don't have enforcement of the regulations. Indeed. Let us quote the Dune books (since they're trending, and for good reason!): "Good government never depends upon laws, but upon the personal qualities of those who govern. The machinery of government is always subordinate to the will of those who administer that machinery. The most important element of government, therefore, is…

Excellent quotes! Thanks for sharing.

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#103
post #89

Man what a PoS this guy was. he started as a lame re-poster >His head was turned by the substantial sum of money: “I told my wife, wow, it’s £1,000.” >Then, to his annoyance, TikTok immediately deleted his account because he was just stealing other people’s videos and reposting them. and dove straight into fabricating hate, and worst of all after directly confronted seems to literally have no concept of what he was d…

I would say about 20% of people are like that. Total disregard for common good, maximal selfishness.

Only 20!? More like 90 to 95%

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#104
Single biggest mistake of Social Media was to pay users for what they post. Started with YouTube, went the same way with Facbook, Instagram, TikTok and Twitter. People only post ragebait or engagement bait or play "the reply guy" with low-effort AI-generated content. Many people in countries like India and Pakistan are doing this because it pays better than their jobs. There was an interesting article on NHK that is always on the top of my mind when it's about this, I actually found it again: https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/na-k10014341931000 In Japan they are called "Impression Zombies", kinda fitting.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

#105
post #89

Man what a PoS this guy was. he started as a lame re-poster >His head was turned by the substantial sum of money: “I told my wife, wow, it’s £1,000.” >Then, to his annoyance, TikTok immediately deleted his account because he was just stealing other people’s videos and reposting them. and dove straight into fabricating hate, and worst of all after directly confronted seems to literally have no concept of what he was d…

I would say about 20% of people are like that. Total disregard for common good, maximal selfishness.

> Total disregard for common good, maximal selfishness.

Or lacking better alternatives for a decent life aggravated by having zero positive role models and a media/political culture whose only positive value is mo' money.

> I would say about 20% of people are like that.

That depends on region, language and the conditions described above. Placing a numeric value collectively on all of humanity conveys zero useful information.

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#106

"While the social media revolution has come with extraordinary benefits..." curious what Khan would say those benefits are. It's certainly something a lot of people find entertaining but I would not say there have been "extraordinary benefits" to society or individuals from the average UK adult spending 1h 37m a day[1] of their lives on social media platforms. "While smoking cigarettes has come with extraordinary ben…

Maybe replace "benefits" with "profits"?

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#107

Man what a PoS this guy was. he started as a lame re-poster >His head was turned by the substantial sum of money: “I told my wife, wow, it’s £1,000.” >Then, to his annoyance, TikTok immediately deleted his account because he was just stealing other people’s videos and reposting them. and dove straight into fabricating hate, and worst of all after directly confronted seems to literally have no concept of what he was d…

When someone has a complete lack of values like this, it always makes me wonder what their upbringing was like.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

#108
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say about 20% of people are like that. Total disregard for common good, maximal selfishness.

Only 20!? More like 90 to 95%

Surely you don't believe that, given a random sample of 20 people, 19 of them will be amoral, selfish, and have no values? Surely this doesn't align with your real life experience - what are your colleagues, friends, family, neighbours and acquaintances like? Do they meet this ratio?

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#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To quote you from an earlier comment of yours: "This is exactly the sensational take (devoid of nuance and information) that we should collectively push back against." The left has been traditionally anti-capitalist and in favor of improving rights and living conditions. Who on the left is gaining financially from distorting the truth to the level of someone like Larry Ellison, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, the Koch Brothe…

In the favor of improving living conditions? If and only if it is through their ideology. If it is through something which goes against their ideology the goalposts move at the speed of light and out comes some rationalization like "it wasn't really important, what we need is community". When communism had claims to being more productive growth was the most important thing in the world and why we should adopt their i…

That's because Marx was a productivist, and communism was strictly productivist until a decade ago (and still is mainly productivist nowadays).

In a lot of country political ecology used to be liberal/capitalist (save a few radical feminist like D'Eaubonne who linked environment with feminism, but it's less than a minority). Basically Blair's 'third way' but with less nuclear (for some reason, although I think this position is loosing ground in ecologist), and more electric cars.

The degrowth movement is an offshot of that ideology. Degrowth is to political ecologism what anarchism is to communism, based a very Idealist and hopeful view of humanity.

Communists and ecologists are broadly on the 'left', but rarely allied until maybe a decade ago, and again, on minor things (Communists love nuclear,as it is typically something you don't want a capitalist with 'limited liability' to take care of), and while degrowth might be close to anarchists in some way, it is very, very dishonest to put them in the same basket.

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#110

It's a genuinely surprising feeling to live in a place, but see an absolute torrent of malevolent misinformation about it. The "London has fallen" trope that has been prevalent on social media recently stank of some kind of deliberate manipulation. But increasingly—in part due to stories like this—I wonder if it is actually just all "for the views".

I've lived in Chicago and San Francisco, both places also victims of this type of narrative.
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