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Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#101
post #28

Download button takes me to windows store. That doesn't work on my machine. On Linux got as a flatpak.

windows store was a huge red flag

Conceptually I like the Windows Store for certain things (i.e. those where I want automatic updates) - I can manage my apps from it via the winget CLI and winget.config files, and get automatic updates.

However, the LTSC edition of Windows doesn't have Windows Store support, and the non-LTSC editions of Windows have become untenable to me.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#102

First of all, I love LibreOffice very much as the last bastion of sanity in classic document suites, and I love what Collabora is trying to do with the online piece. So, first, a million thanks. Truly. Now, to put on the the "feedback is a gift" and "radical transparency" caps. From the screenshot comparison in TFA: The new one looks all Microsoft-Ribbony. That's a huge step backward. The big strength of LibreOffice…

You can switch away from ribbon styles btw, if it's not your jam. IMO it's grown on me. As for my experience, collabora thus-far has been plenty responsive.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#104
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a "I may afford you, but I don't have people budget for those dumb calls" button for me.

That still doesn't tell me what it costs, though.

well that's the whole point. It reveals organizational attitude and their focus on entrenching the product with pre-sales madness, instead of properly proving value of the product.

I choose not to participate in that, it's fishy. Others do better.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#105
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except for all the people who use Google Docs, I suppose.

This is true I suppose. Google Docs is a bit different. I'm not very familiar with their offerings. Here in the US, most stop using it past grade school and graduate to MS products after, at least in my experience. I don't think it matters since Universities will not be taking Google Doc submissions unless it's core ed classes, any beyond it will be LaTeX anyways.

LaTeX is no longer the king of universities, Word has been for quite some time part of the official templates.

https://www.acm.org/publications/authors/submissions

And I can tell that while at CERN, those using LaTeX on paper submissions were the minority, on ATLAS TDAQ/HLT group it was a mix of Word, and FrameMaker.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#106

First of all, I love LibreOffice very much as the last bastion of sanity in classic document suites, and I love what Collabora is trying to do with the online piece. So, first, a million thanks. Truly. Now, to put on the the "feedback is a gift" and "radical transparency" caps. From the screenshot comparison in TFA: The new one looks all Microsoft-Ribbony. That's a huge step backward. The big strength of LibreOffice…

I think UI looks is a very Subjective opinion. I am rather young so I have realy only experience the Ribbons and for me everything back to the old is a huge step back is always going to look old and dusty to me. But thats personal opinion.

Now speed in editing thats a clear showstopper. And we all can agree on that.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#107
post #55

I have super light office requirements these days and those are satisfied with OnlyOffice ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/ ). I do believe it's an Electron app but works quite fast in my personal experience. (Probably faster than LibreOffice if it's still like the last time I used it). It's open source: https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/ I hadn't looked at the Github page in a while. They seem to have a ton of new features…

Important note OnlyOffice is basically Russian Software. The Company is majority Russian owned. So fuck them

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#108

For those who tried it, how good is the Calc (Excel equivalent) and Impress (PowerPoint equivalent)?

I have to use MS products at work and use Collabora (on Linux) at home. Sometimes, I have to edit the same spreadsheet at home and at work and that usually works flawlessly, besides automatic coloring. Now, I also don't try to code in Excel, so that might be one reason. Excel graphs are also nicer.

Here is a comparison by the Document Foundation for spreadsheets [1]. I think it speaks for itself.

Regarding Powerpoint I can't say. I can't recall when I last used Powerpoint for anything. We have an in-house system where I just select slide type, enter my text and attach pictures in a form and it builds a CI-styled PDF for me. I think its basically a LaTeX front-end, but I never cared.

HTH

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_Libr...

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#109
post #55

I have super light office requirements these days and those are satisfied with OnlyOffice ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/ ). I do believe it's an Electron app but works quite fast in my personal experience. (Probably faster than LibreOffice if it's still like the last time I used it). It's open source: https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/ I hadn't looked at the Github page in a while. They seem to have a ton of new features…

Important note OnlyOffice is basically Russian Software. The Company is majority Russian owned. So fuck them

I had to look that up, found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnlyOffice#Organization:

> Based in Latvia, OnlyOffice owner Ascensio System SIA was a subsidiary of Russian-based New Communication Technologies. Due to EU economic sanctions targeting Russia, European organizations that used the commercial version of OnlyOffice were prohibited from doing so.

Re: The New Collabora Office for Desktop

#110
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people of a country are not members of that country's ruling regime. It makes no logical sense to say that one cannot trust open source software from Russia merely for it being Russian in origin. Not all people in the USA are CIA, and not all Russians are FSB. Are the people of the USA responsible for everything the US government does? Is every single person living in China responsible for the actions of the CCP?…

It doesn’t matter. If the FSB knocks on their door and says “add this extra code to your builds or you’ll disappear into the basement of the Lubyanka”, what do you think they’ll say?

True, but we have the same issue with US-based software, or any closed source software really. At least here I can take the source code and check for myself, or let an AI, before building.
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