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Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#101

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Should be possible with optimised models, just drop all "generic" stuff and focus on coding performance. There's no reason for a coding model to contain all of ao3 and wikipedia =)

I think I like coding models that know a lot about the world. They can disambiguate my requirements and build better products.

I generally prefer a coding model that can google for the docs, but separate models for /plan and /build is also a thing.

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#102
I really really want local or self hosted models to work. But my experience is they’re not really even close to the closed paid models.

Does anyone any experience with these and is this release actually workable in practice?

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#103

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I find it really surprising that you’re fine with low end models for coding - I went through a lot of open-weights models, local and "local", and I consistently found the results underwhelming. The glm-4.7 was the smallest model I found to be somewhat reliable, but that’s a sizable 350b and stretches the definition of local-as-in-at-home.

You're replying to a bot, fyi :)

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In what way would it be abused? The usage limits apply all the same, they aren't client side, and hitting that limit is within the terms of the agreement with Anthropic.

The subscription services have assumptions baked in about the usage patterns; they're oversubscribed and subsidized. If 100% of subscriber customers use 100% of their tokens 100% of the time, their business model breaks. That's what wholesale / API tokens are for. > hitting that limit is within the terms of the agreement with Anthropic It's not, because the agreement says you can only use CC.

That's on Anthropic for selling a mirage of limits they don't want people to actually reach for.

It's within their capability to provision for higher usage by alternative clients. They just don't want to.

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I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

Anthropic banned my account when I whipped up a solution to control Claude Code running on my Mac from my phone when I'm out and about. No commercial angle, just a tool I made for myself since they wouldn't ship this feature (and still haven't). I wasn't their biggest fanboy to begin with, but it gave me the kick in the butt needed to go and explore alternatives until local models get good enough that I don't need to…

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#106
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will this run on an apple m4 air with 32gb ram? Im currently using qwen 2.5 16b , and it works really well

No, at Q2 you are looking at a size of about 26gb-30gb. Q3 exceeds it, you might run it, but the result might vary. Best to run a smaller model like qwen3-32b/30b at Q6

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#107
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Can anyone help me understand the "Number of Agent Turns" vs "SWE-Bench Pro (%)" figure? I.e. what does the spread of Qwen3-Coder-Next from ~50 to ~280 agent turns represent for a fixed score of 44.3%: that sometimes it takes that spread of agent turns to achieve said fixed score for the given model?

SWE-Bench Pro consists of 1865 tasks. https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.16941 Qwen3-Coder-Next solved 44.3% (826 or 827) of these tasks. To solve a single task, it took between ≈50 and ≈280 agent turns, ≈150 on average. In other words, a single pass through the dataset took ≈280000 agent turns. Kimi-K2.5 solved ≈84 fewer tasks, but also only took about a third as many agent turns.

If this is genuinely better than K2.5 even at a third the speed then my openrouter credits are going to go unused.

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#108
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Does Qwen3 allow adjusting context during an LLM call or does the housekeeping need to be done before/after each call but not when a single LLM call with multiple tool calls is in progress?

Not applicable... the models just process whatever context you provide to them, context management happens outside of the model and depends on your inference tool/coding agent.

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#109
post #41

I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

I do wonder if they locked things down due to people abusing their CC token.

I buy the theory that Claude Code is engineered to use things like token caching efficiently, and their Claude Max plans were designed with those optimizations in mind.

If people start using the Claude Max plans with other agent harnesses that don't use the same kinds of optimizations the economics may no longer have worked out.

(But I also buy that they're going for horizontal control of the stack here and banning other agent harnesses was a competitive move to support that.)

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#110
post #41

I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

OpenAI committed to allowing it btw. I don't know why Anthropic gets so much love here

Because OpenAI is on the back foot at the moment, they need the retention
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