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Re: Best Gas Masks

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Post by RodgerTheGreat »

kps wrote: post #88
numpad0 wrote: post #62

Put aside politics and anti-tear gas use cases: everyone should just have a full face gas mask for all hacker-ish activities, like painting. Skip half-face, go for full face. Half face models don't just leave eyes exposed but hurts the back of the neck. Maybe I'm wearing it wrong, but the headstrap for full face is much more comfortable. They also seal a lot better. More random tidbits: You'd semi-obviously want a sa…

> everyone should just have a full face gas mask for all hacker-ish activities, like painting Not everyone who wears eyeglasses, unless you're prepared to add another several hundred dollars for the lens holder and set of prescription lenses. I do have the 3M 6800 full face respirator but almost never use it. The silicone 7xxx series is much more comfortable than the rubber 6xxx series, and the 750x silicone half mas…

There are a variety of open-source 3d-printable adapters to mount glasses within full-face respirators. I use a version of this design with my 3M 6000-series and an old pair of lenses:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4672869

Re: Best Gas Masks

#102

Post by dragonwriter »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #98

The infighting is so tedious. We really need to peacefully explore the "national divorce" idea again. In the 1860s the concept was too intermingled with the evil of slavery to be considered separately. But realistically, instead of both sides hating each other to the point of perpetual violence, why not just have 2 or 3 countries in which we can all be happy? Trade and travel agreements are easy to establish by treat…

> We really need to peacefully explore the "national divorce" idea again. In the 1860s the concept was too intermingled with the evil of slavery to be considered separately.

The idea is still just as intermingled with fundamental human rights, plus the sides are more deeply geographically intermingled than in the 1860s, largely because the victors decided not to really root out the evil they had defeated an instead allowed it to metastasize. There may be no peaceful resolution; there is certainly no possibility of a peaceful divorce.

Re: Best Gas Masks

#103

Post by Aunche »

dmazin wrote: post #2

While NYT etc mostly stand back as the U.S. crosses the rubicon, what started as a freaking gadget review site seems to employ nearly all the journalists with actual gusto left in America.

It's disappointing that people increasingly expect news to be propaganda for their own side. The news is meant to be a source of information. You don't have to agree with everything an article has to say to get useful information from it. There is no shortage of quasi-revolutionary content on the internet if that's what you seek.

Re: Best Gas Masks

#104

Post by acessoproibido »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #96
Aboutplants wrote: post #3

The Verge has truly become one of the most respected sites on the web. Some of the best reporting, tech or otherwise, is being done there. Kudos

The author in particular strikes me as a thoughtful, considerate and unbiased individual, a paragon of inclusivity: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534

some dumb old troll tweets that someone wrote years ago (and publicly apologized for) shouldn't disqualified them from being a great reporter.

hell by that metric basically noone who ever wrote something publicly of any substance is qualified

also ever visited twitter? the stuff she wrote is pretty tame even by 2022 cancel culture standards

Re: Best Gas Masks

#105

Post by KaiserPro »

numpad0 wrote: post #62

Put aside politics and anti-tear gas use cases: everyone should just have a full face gas mask for all hacker-ish activities, like painting. Skip half-face, go for full face. Half face models don't just leave eyes exposed but hurts the back of the neck. Maybe I'm wearing it wrong, but the headstrap for full face is much more comfortable. They also seal a lot better. More random tidbits: You'd semi-obviously want a sa…

For the UK/EU types, GVS make a good half resporator mask:

https://www.gvs.com/en/catalog/elipse-p3-respirator

This one is good for standard DIY duties that do not involve chemicals (ie cutting, grinding, sanding)

there is a quite readable guide you can get here: https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/hsg53.pdf

For chemical resistance: https://www.gvs.com/en/catalog/elipse-a1p3-respirator

BUT you need to worry about mucus membranes (ie eyeballs can absorb some chemical). The A1 bit means that it'll protect against PPM that are less than 1000, (No I don't know what the PPM of teargas is.)

I guess but cannot assert that decent hardened safety goggles will help against gas in the eyes, but again you'll need to look at the standards for that. the all in one mask/face shields are a better bet.

Your local hardware store should carry this kind of stuff, especially if they do any kind of plastic solvent or fibreglass/epoxy stuff.

Re: Best Gas Masks

#106

Post by rexpop »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #98

The infighting is so tedious. We really need to peacefully explore the "national divorce" idea again. In the 1860s the concept was too intermingled with the evil of slavery to be considered separately. But realistically, instead of both sides hating each other to the point of perpetual violence, why not just have 2 or 3 countries in which we can all be happy? Trade and travel agreements are easy to establish by treat…

Slavery still is—and will always be—the issue. You think the Black populations of Alabama, Louisiana, and Florida want to be ruled by uncontested white supremacists?

It is the historical task of our species to abolish slavery. In every generation we've got to reeducate ourselves about its evils.

Re: Best Gas Masks

#107

Post by acessoproibido »

Aunche wrote: post #103
dmazin wrote: post #2

While NYT etc mostly stand back as the U.S. crosses the rubicon, what started as a freaking gadget review site seems to employ nearly all the journalists with actual gusto left in America.

It's disappointing that people increasingly expect news to be propaganda for their own side. The news is meant to be a source of information. You don't have to agree with everything an article has to say to get useful information from it. There is no shortage of quasi-revolutionary content on the internet if that's what you seek.

News has always been propaganda for one side, its just sometimes more or less obvious.

Personally I prefer the ones that make it clear where they stand as opposed to subtly influencing you while masquerading as "neutral".

Re: Best Gas Masks

#108

Post by __alexs »

exmadscientist wrote: post #10

> 3M does not provide product information on which filters are best for government repression Just get the one that everyone else does: NIOSH TC-84A-0510 with protection against "Solid Particles, Organic Vapors, Acid Gases, Ammonia, Formaldehyde, Methylamine". Every lab buys this filter, or its manufacturer equivalent, for dealing with god-knows-what, because this one will handle just about anything.

Article is actually wrong and they do provide some advice on this.

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/339742O/3m-full-facepiec...

> Also NIOSH-approved with 3MTM Canister CP3N for use against CS, CN and as a P100 filter (TC-14G-0251) in riot conditions, including those with teargas (non-CBRN).

Re: Best Gas Masks

#109

Post by __alexs »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #96
Aboutplants wrote: post #3

The Verge has truly become one of the most respected sites on the web. Some of the best reporting, tech or otherwise, is being done there. Kudos

The author in particular strikes me as a thoughtful, considerate and unbiased individual, a paragon of inclusivity: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534

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Re: Best Gas Masks

#110

Post by malacola »

Does anyone know if any of these respirators can be sized to fit a smaller than average 4-year-old?

If they start rolling through random neighborhoods and gassing people in their homes like they did in Minneapolis, I’d like to be prepared.

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