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Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk

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Re: Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk

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Post by darth_avocado »

loeg wrote: post #25

10% over a year, split into two waves isn't that extreme. It seems like 5%/year is sort of industry norm.

> Amazon has about 350,000 corporate employees and a total workforce of approximately 1.56 million.

Is it mentioned anywhere that the roles eliminated are all going to be software engineers, because that’s what all the threads so far are interpreting this as. This feels more like preparing for a recession without saying it out loud. People aren’t buying as much anymore and with focus on cost savings across tech, can easily understand AWS not covering for lower retail revenue anymore.

Re: Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk

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Post by Refreeze5224 »

4er_transform wrote: post #72
int_19h wrote: post #41

That is why software engineers also need unions. (but the time to organize was back when we still had the upper hand)

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Markets are anti-human. Any economic system not designed for the well-being of human beings is anti-human. "Living standards" is a concept the owning class uses to justify their obscene wealth and promulgation of a system solely focused on profit.

Re: Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk

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Post by gerdesj »

mjr00 wrote: post #29

There's some stuff that, culturally, I don't think Amazon will ever do well. Amazon Games should be shuttered entirely. Their latest game was a really embarrassing flop; "King of Meat", which they expected to have 100,000 daily concurrent players, reached a max of 320 concurrents during a free weekend[0]. Have you heard of a single Amazon Prime Original Movie[1]? Likely only one -- 2025's War of the Worlds , which be…

"Amazon is built on a culture of doing the most boring, data-driven, predictable thing possible and executing well."

Quite.

I remember when they started off flogging books in the '90s. I completely agree with you that trying to do "creative" is a bloody daft idea for a bunch of very efficient box shifters.

Re: Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk

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Post by darth_avocado »

refulgentis wrote: post #31
loeg wrote: post #25

10% over a year, split into two waves isn't that extreme. It seems like 5%/year is sort of industry norm.

Not sure of your familiarity with FAANG pre-2022, but this is absolutely not the norm.

Pre 2022 also did not have this many employees in FAANG.

Re: Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk

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Post by vineyardmike »

spwa4 wrote: post #16
mikert89 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

amazon has mediocre quality talent that they grind to the bone. which worked when the company just needed raw execution. amazon has an operations culture, which was important for: 1. scaling retail 2. keeping the servers running at AWS all the low hanging fruit has been picked, they need a fundamentally different employee base

> all the low hanging fruit has been picked, they need a fundamentally different employee base As anyone in software development can tell you, this does not compute. You cannot do things this way, and any experienced software engineer can tell you it doesn't work. Besides, it's not how Amazon worked at all. Amazon is famous for having systematically verified ("mathematically proved") how it's core systems operated. W…

Publishing a paper (in 2025) about formal verification is miles different than implementing it company wide. Anyone who has talked to an Amazonian SWE knows they’re not building their systems like this.

The Amazon way is to quickly grind something out, and build on as many layers of AWS abstractions as possible. They’re famous for the hustle and grind not the stellar engineering acumen of formal verification.

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Post by Lammy »

groundzeros2015 wrote: post #80
Lammy wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please stop validating the language of the oppressors

Can you defend your point?

They literally got caught colluding to depress wages. You're a fool if you expect that their goals have changed.

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Post by augusto-moura »

wat10000 wrote: post #83
augusto-moura wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure about other countries, but there were a few trys in creating unions for software engineers in Brazil, where I live. They all failed for lack of interest from the engineers themselves. Aside from that, you need to contribute with money for something that will not get you anything in the short term. Also the lack of transparency incentives corruption

Why does there have to be a lack of transparency?

I'm not saying it has to, I'm saying what happened in Brazil

Re: Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk

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Post by wat10000 »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #65
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“ Turns out announcing a $100k fee to distract from the Gold Card leads to a reserve brain drain” Seems a lot of the Trump policies go exactly the opposite of what was planned. The supply people at my company are telling me that there is a huge push to move manufacturing away from the US due to tariffs.

The United States has a labor pool of over 170 million people. If you can't find Amazon workers in a country of that size, it's due to one thing and one thing only: you're a bigot who hates Americans. We can dance around it and dress it up like we have for the past thirty years but it's time to call it for what it is: bigotry and hatred wearing a dress of openness. Just admit what you are instead of continuing this a…

Do you apply this philosophy to your electronics purchases?

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Post by goostavos »

tayo42 wrote: post #50
mjr00 wrote: post #29

There's some stuff that, culturally, I don't think Amazon will ever do well. Amazon Games should be shuttered entirely. Their latest game was a really embarrassing flop; "King of Meat", which they expected to have 100,000 daily concurrent players, reached a max of 320 concurrents during a free weekend[0]. Have you heard of a single Amazon Prime Original Movie[1]? Likely only one -- 2025's War of the Worlds , which be…

Fallouts been pretty good. Not sure what they did right there

I found the first season OK enough, but the second season to be unwatchable.
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