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Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by trinix912 »

brabel wrote: post #87
RealityVoid wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you actually read all the posts pointing this and all the _other_ aggressive actions Russia is taking against the EU? Regardless, Russia is a bully and sticking your head in the sand won't make them go away.

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> Yet the West made absolutely no attempt to calm the Russians down and for some reason announced in 2008 plans to expand to Georgia and Ukraine, despite even Western experts warning about that being utterly provocative.

It is the right of any sovereign country to freely join any military alliance, including NATO. The fact that this upsets Putin says more about him than the alliance and its (potential) members.

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by trinix912 »

throw310822 wrote: post #64
Zagitta wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're conveniently omitting these all happened in response to the full scale Russian invasion of Ukraine. But thanks for proving the point about Russia's disinformation war.

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Russia (or Putin, to be precise) has repeatedly threatened to invade EU members in the Baltics (rebuilding the SU/Russian Empire/etc), as well as threatened EU with stopping gas supply, which would've been a direct hit to the economy. These two are confirmed facts, there's also a lot more stuff speculated which you can freely find online.

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by yesturi »

postepowanieadm wrote: post #80

Poland has a high alertness status for like 5 years now. So there was time to be prepared.

There's some news about some psy-op or some damage every couple of days. We hear about "Russian trolls" and influencing the political discourse.

I wonder if there is any symmetrical response to this happening. How about unleashing psy-ops and "Western trolls" in Runet? Is Europe in purely defensive mode?

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by rdtsc »

postepowanieadm wrote: post #79
rdtsc wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Europe overall feel and act like that’s the case though? It seems as if the European war has been pushed to the background recently, and most people kind of forgot about it. If you walk down the streets of Paris or Berlin does it look like it’s wartime, do people talk about it much, do they share the latest front news and so on?

Berlin recently had a blackdown caused by domestic terrorists.

Is everyone talking about domestic terrorism or Putin and the war in Ukraine? Or are you thinking the domestic terrorism is not that domestic and it’s Putin doing it?

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by hardlianotion »

wtcactus wrote: post #81

Will this be the time that EU grows a spine and comes together to oppose Russia? Naaa, better continue to have Germany and France continue to destroy the Union by looking only at their self interests while they pretend to talk tough on Trump and sabotage any real internal changes so that they can keep their crumbs. Just this week, France’s meddling halted a deal that was 30 years in the making: Mercosul while their p…

Which EU? The EU that continues to buy rebadged Russian oil and gas, the EU that sold them entire fleets of shadow tankers? Or the one that likes to pretend that states bordering Russia have suddenly acquired the exact same demand for expensive cars that Russia used to exhibit?

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by rdtsc »

joe_mamba wrote: post #17
rdtsc wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Europe overall feel and act like that’s the case though? It seems as if the European war has been pushed to the background recently, and most people kind of forgot about it. If you walk down the streets of Paris or Berlin does it look like it’s wartime, do people talk about it much, do they share the latest front news and so on?

>If you walk down the streets of Paris or Berlin does it look like it’s wartime, Like what exactly would you want them to do? Run around screaming all day because there's a war in another country 2000 km away from them? No, people just go on with their lives, doing their jobs, taking care of family and friends, paying their taxes, so that specialized workers in the ministry of defence can take care of the war stuff f…

Since we’re going with Kyiv equivalence, presumably there not air raid sirens, veterans coming back from war, mobilization vans grabbing people from the streets. I just don’t see how “Kyiv is the exact same way” is plausible.

> Like what exactly would you want them to do? Run around screaming all day

And I didn’t suggest they should “do something or other” I was wondering what the situation was since I am not there in person and figured enough HNers might be.

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by pqtyw »

msuniverse2026 wrote: post #63
general1465 wrote: post #4

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Poland is a major logistical hub for everything going towards Ukraine. Thus targeting basic infrastructure like energy grid or railroad have to be expected. On the bright side, using these weapon grade malware is burning exploits and also showing current state and techniques of Russian cyberwarfare which defender can learn a lot from.

Interesting that Russia still hasn't targeted the bridges going into Ukraine from Poland for some reason.

To be fair precision strikes on bridges are not that easy. Of course the Kerch bridge is especially resilient due to the way it was build but still actually hitting a 60-100 meter length bridge from 700-1000 km away is tricky.

Not that it matter anyway at all... since there aren't any major rivers separating Poland and Ukraine to begin with.

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by pqtyw »

brabel wrote: post #84
dijit wrote: post #7

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before anyone jumps on the pedantry bandwagon, its worth noting that even though open war hasn’t been called: the attacks on infrastructure especially cyber warfare is extremely active and, crucially, direct. It is totally fair to say that in a digital context, Russia is absolutely at war with Europe. As far as I can tell, they don’t even try to hide it.

Europe is the main supplier of weapons to Ukraine which is in actual war with Russia. Of course Russia is at war with Europe, the only reason bombs are not falling in Poland and Germany is that Russia wouldn’t have the capability to defend itself against retaliation. Do people really believe their countries can openly take sides in a war and not be targeted??

Well be the same definition Russia was at war with the US in Korea and Vietnam (or Afghanistan). To a much bigger extent to be fair since there were actual Russian pilotes deploying to both countries.

I'm not sure whether Johnson or Nixon (during periods of sobriety of course) were considering directly attacking Russian territory because of that...

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by pqtyw »

lucketone wrote: post #89
throw310822 wrote: post #64

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Chamberlain decided not to join the war, look what that resulted in.

Well he did... just a few years later.

To be fair in 1938 Britain hardly had a land army so France would have had to do all the fighting anyway. So whatever Chamberlain wanted to do didn't really matter that much.

Re: Poland's energy grid was targeted by never-before-seen wiper malware

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

joe_mamba wrote: post #33
koiueo wrote: post #29

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Kyiv. And "enjoying their daily lives" diminishes real tragedies of Ukrainians' daily lives.

I beg to differ. Calling going out to a gym, cafe, club or a bar during wartime, as anything other than enjoying life, diminishes the real tragedy of those who are fighting on the front line and don't enjoy such leisure activities. Some people are fortunate enough that they can still get to enjoy life even if their country is in a war, as just like in every war ever, not everyone is affected equally.

I wasn't aware gym membership could bring 2,500 Ukrainian civilians back from the dead.
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