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Yup, it's where I got a lot of my linux knowledge. I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install.
Let's break it down to traditional skill level terminology Apprentice: Ubuntu, Fedora Journeyman: Arch, Debian, Gentoo Master: Linux From Scratch
This was probably the best thing I've done to learn the ins and outs of a running Linux system: I think it would be amazing to re-do it with a modern Linux stack (systemd + Wayland), but it can really remove all the "magic" from the full OS implementation for you. However, I've done it in 1999 and ran that system until 2001 when it became too much of a trouble to recompile everything and battle dependencies manually…
Isn't it by design that linux has many optional components and one can pick and choose as they desire to create their distribution?
Is there anything like a “Windows From Scratch”? like taking a full Windows installation and copying binaries and components to new machine one by one, mainly to understand how Windows is structured internally?
This was probably the best thing I've done to learn the ins and outs of a running Linux system: I think it would be amazing to re-do it with a modern Linux stack (systemd + Wayland), but it can really remove all the "magic" from the full OS implementation for you. However, I've done it in 1999 and ran that system until 2001 when it became too much of a trouble to recompile everything and battle dependencies manually…
Is there such a thing as a modern Linux stack? Isn't it by design that linux has many optional components and one can pick and choose as they desire to create their distribution?
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I actually tried this back around 1999 as well. At the time, it felt like I was just being told "type this" and "type that", with very little explanation of what anything meant or why it was done one way instead of another. Maybe after all these years it’s worth giving it another shot? Does it work on a VM?
> Maybe after all these years it’s worth giving it another shot? Does it work on a VM? I think it works in a VM just fine. I would recommend having some scripts to aid with compilation though. Even simple python scripts should suffice and probably others already did so. For the most part everything compiles well; if you have a few scripts that automate some parts, you could do this on a single weekend or two. It is q…
And no scripts either: back then it was typing everything in, and docs were a bit outdated so it was either trial and error or my typos that required you to stay on your toes.
This was probably the best thing I've done to learn the ins and outs of a running Linux system: I think it would be amazing to re-do it with a modern Linux stack (systemd + Wayland), but it can really remove all the "magic" from the full OS implementation for you. However, I've done it in 1999 and ran that system until 2001 when it became too much of a trouble to recompile everything and battle dependencies manually…
Wayland is quite simple actually. Nowhere near as much to configure compared to systemd. Even systemd can be kept simple - I did this on manjaro. Either way the power of LFS/BLFS is to adjust the system to your use case. > it can really remove all the "magic" from the full OS implementation for you. To some extent. Many things are missing IMO, in particular if you go to BLFS. But for the most part I agree with you -…
I've never invested as much in systemd or Wayland, so I am operating on a different abstraction level with it, probably just like most everybody else.
My point was that I did not keep it simple: I actually made it into my perfectly configured system, and I manually tweaked every config I though might have something interesting for me.
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Yup, it's where I got a lot of my linux knowledge. I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install.
Let's break it down to traditional skill level terminology Apprentice: Ubuntu, Fedora Journeyman: Arch, Debian, Gentoo Master: Linux From Scratch
Write your entire system definition once and never again.