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Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

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Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

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post #82

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> Tabs and auto-recover are welcome additions They were very unwelcome to me.

Simple example of the newly poor UX. I try to start notepad to jot down some scratch. It sluggishly reopens whatever it previously had open (e.g. from before a reboot)...and in doing so, doesn't actually create a new document for me.

That was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. For my use case, it rendered Notepad unusable.

Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

#102
post #48

It feels like everything is falling apart and getting worse. Yet somehow people are racing to produce AI slop faster . If software eventually collapses under its own weight, things might be so borked we have to bootstrap everything from scratch, staring with assembly.

I know it's not fashionable to be positive about macos but since ditching Windows a decade ago it's pretty much just worked, and I can run Excel and the like. I'm sticking with Sequoia and avoiding 26 though, for now.

Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

#104
post #31

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This is the same stuff that comes up every time in these threads, and at some point, you have to consider that maybe you're holding it wrong. For example: "installing programs is a mix of flatpaks, APKs, and building from source"? Like Windows and macOS aren't hellish wastelands of unreliable and inconsistent installations? Really? Microsoft Store? .msi? Custom .exe installer that litters random junk in inscrutable p…

> Or, macOS: Is it a .dmg with an .app that you drag to Applications? - In 98% of cases it is a .dmg with .app ... so drag and drop or App Store install. - 1% of cases it is a standard installer and that is mostly because the developer is old-school and too lazy to make a .app (e.g. here's looking at you Microsoft) - The remaining 1% (Homebrew/Macports) is really for the power-user, and in most cases you can just dow…

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Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

#105
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tabs and auto-recover are welcome additions They were very unwelcome to me.

Simple example of the newly poor UX. I try to start notepad to jot down some scratch. It sluggishly reopens whatever it previously had open (e.g. from before a reboot)...and in doing so, doesn't actually create a new document for me.

Then turn off session resuming? Turn off Copilot? They're options in the Settings menu, if you don't want them.

Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

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> Is ther eany OS/desktop where you dont pay the "linux tax" when it comes to how the GUI feels? That'll depend on how much time you want to invest. /r/unixporn has a lot of _beautiful_ looking desktops but almost all of them come with a non-trivial list of configuration files and plugins ... etc. > or have missed a lot of features that commercial OSes have, installing programs is a mix of flatpaks, APKs, and buildin…

> /r/unixporn has a lot of _beautiful_ looking desktops The emphasis here should be on the word _looking_ instead. A lot of these desktops (majority are hyprland setups) reveal themselves to be superficial jank when you try to do anything remotely commonplace, like connecting to a new wifi network. It's great that windows slide around at 60fps, but if your answer for managing your network is to open the cli, what eve…

> but if your answer for managing your network is to open the cli, what even is the desktop for

Precisely but I'm on the "if you can see your desktop at all, you're not using the computer right" side of the coin. I use KDE because keyboard shortcuts and infinite customization and reasonably powerful automation. I do not care what things look like, so long as whatever the look like, they stay in the same spot that they have been in for the last decade.

I think my distro changes the wallpaper every point release for KDE but I'm not really sure, I only see it briefly after a reboot.

Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

#107
post #33

One thing that is pretty impressive with Windows 11 however is WSL. I can just run a X program and it pops up as its own Window. So for example, I can run Chrome on Ubuntu on Windows, out of the box. On Windows 10, WSL is good for the command line, but Windows 11 takes it much further.

WSLg also works on Windows 10.

Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

#108
post #7

Hate is a weak word, basic stuff like notepad, snipping tool or terminal don't even work today https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-...

My most recent astonishment was they've shoved copilot into notepad. Why did they get rid of Wordpad and ruin notepad again? It's like they've forgotten the entire purpose of Task Manager, Notepad, etc. Then again (gestures at World Economic Forum today)...feels like I'm mainlining crazy pills these days.

Today I ran an into an issue with Notepad while at work. I tried to open and print a .txt document for an order, and it completely failed with some type of filesystem read error. Didn't save the log, since I was in a hurry to place the order, but a quick google search didn't help at all. Granted, the file is in a Dropbox folder, so I thought could be affecting it somehow, but notepad++ opened it just fine. Sure, using notepad to type and print orders isn't the best possible work flow, but it's always worked for me in that same setup previously.

I tried to explain why my document printed with line numbers to the recipient (who isn't particularly tech savvy), and felt like a crazy person while doing so.

Looks like I'll be using notepad++ going forward, with line numbers off, and I'm pretty confident they'll respect that preference and keep shipping software that works.

Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

#109
post #60
post #8

I'm not being factious, but is there any Linux distro with a desktop experience that matches Windows and macos? Like, yes, I know there are many flaws with both. A lot of sound, technical issues with windows and macos. A slew of UX ones as well. But despite W11 carrying around remnants of Windows 98 still, both of those OSes _feel nice_. Multiple desktops work well, nice gestures, simple installers and applications.…

The problem with linux hasn't been the GUI for a long time, even 20 years ago you had flashier GUI than win / mac. Personally I don't care about GUI and just run i3 with shitty looking dialogs. The problem with linux has been either hardware compatibility or when things don't work it's a pain to figure it out however I have good news on that front! For the life of me I've never managed to send audio to my monitor / T…

> For the life of me I've never managed to send audio to my monitor / TV speakers

Click on the volume applet, select the device.

Any decent distribution nowadays works just fine with that, and uses pipewire.

Re: Hate is a strong word, but I don't like Windows 11

#110
post #89

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This has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of RAM needed.

Absolutely it does, for 2 different reasons. First up, the nature of dlls is that the same dll for multiple applications gets saved in memory just once. If you have 2 windows applications and one is 32bit and the other 64bit, then both of those applications end up loading up effectively the same dlls, but one is compiled for 64bit apps and the other 32. That nearly doubles the amount of ram needed in a mixed system.…

If you'd ever opened a directory of a program in windows you'd know that they always bring their own dlls, windows is not debian.
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